Last week somebody rebuilt a working website using a swarm of cheap AI agents bossed around by a smarter one, and the whole thing cost about eight dollars — sandwich and a coffee. But the part that lit up my corner of the internet wasn’t the website. It was that the agents caught their own lies.
One of them went out and collected a couple hundred quotes for the site and reported back that every last one was verified, checked, gold. Another agent — a suspicious little thing that had been told to ignore the first one’s homework and redo it from scratch — went and compared each quote against the actual source. More than a dozen were wrong. Invented. Stitched together from real fragments into sentences nobody had ever said. The checker flagged them, sent them back, and they got fixed. No human touched it. Total additional cost: a rounding error.
The reaction was what you’d expect. Hallucination is solved. It’s handled structurally now. It’s just a recipe — anybody can do this.
And here’s the thing that made me put down my coffee: they’re right. That’s the interesting part. They are completely, verifiably right, and they have drawn precisely the wrong conclusion from being right.
Let me tell you what I think actually happened last week. Then, because a thesis you haven’t tried to strangle in its crib isn’t worth printing, let me spend a few hundred words trying to prove myself wrong.
The thesis, in one sentence
When everybody can check, “we checked” stops meaning anything — and the value doesn’t disappear, it moves to whoever can prove it.
That’s it. That’s the whole argument. Cheap, universal self-checking doesn’t make verification worthless. It makes verification worthless and makes proof of verification more valuable than it has ever been. Those are two different goods, and we are about to spend the next few years confusing them.
I know this because we have run this exact experiment before. Several times. It always ends the same way, and it has never once ended the way the eight-dollar-website people think it’s going to end.
We have done this before
Once upon a time, a company’s books were whatever the company said they were. You wanted to know if a firm was sound, you asked the firm, and the firm told you it was doing marvelously, thank you. This worked exactly as well as you’d imagine. Victorian England ran on railway shares and joint-stock companies that turned out, with some regularity, to be elaborate works of fiction. America capped the genre in 1929.
Now — anybody could add up a ledger. Arithmetic was not a scarce resource. Double-entry bookkeeping had been sitting in print since a Franciscan friar wrote it down in 1494. The capability to check the numbers was cheap and universal and had been for four centuries. And it counted for nothing, because the party doing the adding was the party with everything to gain from the total.
So the market invented a thing. Not new arithmetic — new arithmetic-with-a-signature-on-it. An independent audit, performed by someone who didn’t work for you, who put their name and their liability on an opinion that your books were what you claimed. After 1933 and 1934 we made it the law for anyone who wanted to sell shares to the public. And a strange thing happened to the value: the signature on the auditor’s opinion became worth more than the numbers underneath it. The numbers were free. Everybody had the numbers. What cost money — what still costs a fortune — was the independent, accountable, provable attestation that the numbers were true.
This is not a one-off. It is the most reliable pattern in the history of commerce, and once you see it you can’t stop seeing it.
John Moody couldn’t tell which railroad bonds were safe, and neither could anybody else, so in 1909 he started publishing ratings — a trusted outsider’s letter grade — and built an institution that outlived every railroad he graded. Anyone could read a balance sheet. What you couldn’t do was vouch.
By 1894 American cities were wiring themselves for electricity and quietly burning themselves down, so a young electrical inspector founded a laboratory to test the equipment and stamp the safe ones with a little circled UL. Anyone could wire a lamp. What you couldn’t do was promise a nervous insurer it wouldn’t kill somebody.
Go back further and it’s a notary — a person whose entire job, for two thousand years, has been to be a trusted third party who watches you sign and swears you signed. Come forward and it’s the little padlock in your browser, which exists because somewhere a certificate authority you’ve never heard of vouched that the website is who it says it is. Anyone can make a web page. What you can’t do, standing there yourself, is prove it’s not a trap.
The pattern, every single time, in four beats: a capability gets cheap and universal; self-attestation becomes worthless because it’s cheap and universal; a trusted, independent third party steps into the gap; and the proof ends up worth more than the thing being proved. The calculator goes to zero. The audit becomes an industry.
We are, right now, at beat one for artificial intelligence. The capability to check an AI’s work is going cheap and universal in front of our eyes — eight dollars, an afternoon, a recipe. Which means, if history is any guide at all, we are standing at the exact threshold where the proof is about to become the whole game.
Now let me try to break it
I don’t trust arguments this tidy, and neither should you. History rhyming is not history repeating, and “a trusted third party always wins” is the kind of thing that sounds like wisdom and behaves like a horoscope. So here are the three ways I can see this time genuinely being different. I take them seriously. You should too.
One: maybe it commoditizes all the way down. Maybe AI verification gets so cheap, so built-in, so ambient that it dissolves into the plumbing and no third party can carve out a slice worth paying for. The checking becomes like spell-check — everywhere, free, and nobody’s business model. That’s a real possibility, and it’s the strongest objection, because the eight-dollar demo is exactly what total commoditization looks like on day one.
Two: maybe the platforms become their own auditors. The biggest AI companies are not fools. They can build the checking into their own products and stamp their own work “verified.” Why would a market pay an independent when the incumbent offers it for free, integrated, with one throat to choke? Perhaps the attestor and the attested merge, and the independent third party never gets born at all.
Three: maybe regulation flattens it. Government could simply mandate a checklist — “thou shalt verify” — turn it into a compliance box every vendor ticks, and reduce the whole thing to paperwork. No premium, no institution, just another line in a form nobody reads.
Those are good objections. If I were sitting across a table trying to poke holes in me, those are the three I’d use. Let me take them in reverse, because they get easier to answer as you go.
Regulation flattening the market is exactly backward, and we have the receipts. When Congress passed Sarbanes-Oxley after Enron, it did not turn auditing into a commodity checkbox. It set off the greatest hiring boom in the history of the accounting profession. Mandating verification doesn’t kill the verifier — it conscripts the whole market into needing one. A rule that says “you must prove it” is a rule that creates permanent, price-insensitive demand for whoever can do the proving. Regulation is the auditor’s best friend and always has been.
The platform-as-its-own-auditor objection is the one that feels strongest and is actually the weakest, because it fails on the single word the entire edifice is built on: independence. You cannot audit yourself. It is not a technical limitation, it is a logical one, and every regulated industry on earth already knows it in its bones. A bank’s regulator will not accept “our vendor checked its own work.” A court will not accept “the company that made the statement also certified it.” And we know precisely what happens when the attestor isn’t independent, because we watched it: Arthur Andersen didn’t collapse in 2002 because it couldn’t do the arithmetic. It collapsed because it audited Enron and consulted for Enron, and the moment the checker and the checked shared a paycheck, the signature became worthless — and took an eighty-nine-year-old firm and its clients down with it. The platforms can build wonderful checking. What they structurally cannot build is independence from themselves. That gap doesn’t close with a better model. It’s not a model problem.
Which leaves the first objection, the real one — total commoditization — and here is where I finally climb down off the fence. The mistake in “it’ll commoditize all the way down” is that it treats the calculator and the audit as the same product arriving at the same time. They are not. The commoditization of the capability is not the enemy of the attestation — it is the precondition for it. Cheap arithmetic didn’t prevent the audit industry; it created it, by making self-reported numbers worthless enough that the market went looking for someone independent to sign them. Spell-check going free didn’t end proofreading at the places where being wrong is catastrophic — publishers, law firms, the FDA label on your prescription. The cheaper and more universal the checking gets, the more obvious it becomes that “we checked” is a thing anyone can say and therefore a thing no one can be trusted on — and the more valuable it becomes to be the one party who can hand a regulator, a court, or a nervous CEO something better than a promise. A receipt. An opinion. A signature with liability attached.
Cheap checking doesn’t drain the pool. It fills it, and then it makes everyone thirsty for the one glass of water nobody’s allowed to pour for themselves.
Where that leaves us
So here’s where I’ve landed, having tried in good faith to land somewhere else.
Everyone racing to make AI check its own work is building the calculator. It’s genuinely impressive, it’s getting cheaper by the week, and it is going to be worth approximately nothing — not because it doesn’t work, but because it works for everybody, which in the trust business is the same as not working at all. The eight-dollar website was not a glimpse of the finish line. It was the starting gun.
The prize — the durable, defensible, boring-in-the-way-that-mints-money prize — is the audit. The independent, provable, accountable verification of record that regulated industries can rely on and, more importantly, defend. Not a model that says “trust me, I checked.” A layer that hands you a signed opinion you can put in front of the people who will hold you responsible when it’s wrong.
We are going to spend the next couple of years watching very smart people confuse those two things. They’ll keep announcing that hallucination is solved, and they’ll keep being technically correct and strategically lost. And somewhere in the middle of all that noise, quietly, the way it happened with the ledger and the bond and the wire and the padlock, somebody is going to build the thing that actually matters.
I’ve been watching this industry long enough to have seen the pattern play out in four other centuries and at least three other technologies. I’d bet the coffee and the sandwich it plays out again.
The numbers are free. They’ve always been free. It’s the signature that costs.

Thanks, nice and infromative article! Would be even nicer if yuo included a link to the original story of this somebody. “Last week somebody rebuilt a working website using a swarm of cheap AI agents bossed around by a smarter one”. I would like to read more about how they did it.
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I don’t trust arguments this tidy, and neither should you. History rhyming is not history repeating, and “a trusted third party always wins” is the kind of thing that sounds like wisdom and behaves like a horoscope.
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Oh Cringe, you’ve still got it! ; )
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It’s Nate B Jones. He’s on Substack and YouTube.
Good post. Exception proves the rule…
But Boeing can now certify ITSELF again, for 737 Max and 787
After all these years Cringely is still grabbing a comment he read online and expanding it into a full length article and grabbing all the credit. He’s well known for his hallucinations and dodging editors, and his first major independent writing success was ripping off a published report on Three Mile Island. In that respect yes he’s been in the industry long enough to spot a dodge when he sees one. Perhaps this is why he’s gone all in on covering AI because it’s a new audience he can recycle his old acts and old material with and it will all be fresh again!
I audited the lead paragraph. You can’t get a sandwich and a coffee for eight dollars. It’s 2026.
Last week I asked ChatGPT a question about my Jeep. I find it’s really good at diagnosing weird quirks because it basically is aggregating all the information that is out there, including forums of people saying “my Jeep is making a weird noise, help me.” It told me that it has driven many Jeeps, and then proceeded to explain what might be wrong.
It has driven a Jeep as much as Mr. Cringely put down his coffee. Reading this weird mashup of clearly AI writing with some of Cringely’s own work is fascinating, but frankly disappointing. Perhaps I’m just stuck in the past, and this is what the future looks like. I just hate it.
I’ve been away for a while.. looking forward to checking in a bit more often!
My 2 cents – AI is turning everything into a commodity… auditing included. The question is how hard would a company work to frustrate your ability to do an audit using your own (local?) AI.
Just finished going back to see what I’ve missed… I’m pleasantly surprised that I hadn’t missed much! Sorry to read about the shocking loss of your young son and your health issues.
Glad you’re back.
I realize this blog post is primarily making a case for the 2brains startup, but the premise is still valid. Whether 2Brains does it, or some other company. I like the analogy to web certificate providers, but that’s a straightforward use case and the financial audit analogy is of course the true one. Certifying AI-provided responses on the fly (because no use is going to wait days for that certification) is going to be a multi-step algorithm, and essentially be an AI of its own, whether it’s called that or not. The accuracy and trustworthiness of that validation will be evident (or not) over time, with minimal high-profile mistakes and a track record of ever-increasing accuracy. And that auditor will itself have to be audited.
Very interesting perspective, thanks for compiling this data.
This is just my impression but you come across to me as an extremely effective writer. You get a lot of things said in a fairly brief format through making many wide connections seem clear, and on top of this I read an emotional irony and mixture of self-assurance and skepticism that makes your writing seem no more technical than they are personal and sociable. It’s inspiring to me as an aspiring writer who is trying to find a natural voice.
I feel that you’re overstating a minor point, and arguing it in a bad way.
First of all, nobody is auditing a calculator. Sure, some calculators might not be trustworthy (like the original Pentium), but that’s a bug that needs to be fixed, not something to be audited. If LLMs aren’t trustworthy because of “hallucinations” and there’s a fix for this that prevents hallucinations, then that makes them a good tool. Inspecting electrical device or any other tool is a decent analogy for this: it’s making sure the tool is fit for purpose.
This has nothing to do with auditing, and you’re conflating two issue. Auditing (or notarisation, etc.) is about bad players. It’s a way to ensure that people don’t cheat. It has nothing to do with tools. It doesn’t matter if it was before calculators, with calculators, or using spreadsheets. The problem isn’t the tool, it’s the data entered by people who wanted to misuse the system.
It’s true that with LLMs there’s an issue here that they could be made to deliberately provide bad information. The problem is that “bad information” in this case isn’t well defined. It’s more likely to be a political issue that a technical issue. There is no reason for an LLM to lie about technical issues. The issue is more in being selective with answers on subjects, based on political view or just for monetary gain of those who paid the LLM creator (directing to certain products, for example). This is impossible to audit. Everyone has a political opinion, including any auditor. That would make their judgement compromised, and the audit on the subject will be worthless.
While an interesting subject in itself, I feel that your banal post didn’t touch any actual issue. If you have any idea what auditing means to LLMs, let’s hear it. Without this, this entire post is meaningless.
The party’s over.
It’s time to call it a day.
This is such a fascinating glimpse into where AI is heading — the fact that agents can now catch their own hallucinations without human oversight feels like a real turning point. Curious to see how this kind of self-checking evolves beyond quotes into more complex tasks.
> The party’s over.
> It’s time to call it a day.
Gnarfle, one could charitably say that the party is over. One could also say that this wasn’t even a party, but a weird sort of after-party organized by robots and attended mostly by robots, but also a few confused people, who thought they were being invited to a real party instead of… whatever this was.
However, at least we got the greatest comment ever to grace this website, which was from C Jones: “I audited the lead paragraph. You can’t get a sandwich and a coffee for eight dollars. It’s 2026.”
After that, what else is there to say?
You can buy a sandwich at Publix for $7.
And a small coffee for about a buck.
YMMV
I’m skeptical about the dollar coffee thing. But anyway, I think the point is made.
LLMs are often stuck in the time period when they were trained on (mostly stolen) data. The rest of the world moves on.
You can buy a hot cup of coffee for a buck or close to it at major convenience store chains like 7-Eleven or Circle K, or fast-food spots like McDonald’s using their mobile app deals, which frequently feature $1 any-size hot or iced coffee.Where to Look for $1 CoffeeConvenience Stores: 7-Eleven and Circle K self-serve drip coffee often costs around $1 to $1.50 depending on the size and location.Fast Food Apps: McDonald’s and Wendy’s mobile apps routinely run $1 daily coffee deals or $1 breakfast deals.Gas Stations: Local regional fuel stations with fresh coffee stations usually price small drip coffees right around $1.00–$1.25.
Disclaimer. . .Totally created by creepy-pasta and Google AI.
This is such a fascinating read — the fact that the agents caught their own hallucinations without any human oversight feels like a real turning point. It makes you wonder how much further this kind of self-checking can go before we stop second-guessing AI output entirely.
This reminds of the enterprise software industry. From the sidewalk the general public thinks the stuff works. On the inside some of the stuff sometimes works. Do we really know if the output is correct or true or even legal?
@Gnarfle,
The idea that under special circumstances you might be able to find a cup of coffee for $1 (which still seems like a thing from a few years ago, not today) sort of misses the entire point. I mean, you could make the coffee yourself if you really wanted to and save even more money.
But the phrase “eight dollars – sandwich and coffee” strongly implies that you are going to a cafe or restaurant and buying these things together for that price. And in 2026, that’s just not possible. Whatever text the LLM pulled this phrase from is out of date, and it reads as such. That’s the point.
Speaking of points, what was the point of Cringely posting a bunch of AI-generated slop at a furious pace, then stopping completely? What did he think he would gain from this? Why would a writer, of all people, outsource his own writing to a chatbot?
I’ve heard it speculated that this was all a set-up, to “prove” how awesome Cringely’s fake AI startup is, with a dramatic reveal at the end. Something like “Ah hah! All my recent posts have been made by AI, and you didn’t even guess!” Except that most of us did.
At least arguing with you about the price of coffee was fun.
I make a 4 cup pot of coffee every morning for my wife. I pour it into a travel mug and she takes it to work.
Then I go back to sleep for a coupla hours. Or mow the lawn.
Just popped into my head . . . Denis Leary complaining about not being able to find coffee flavored coffee.
Can we just agree AI is a very energy intensive coding tool?
The 1894 UL certification system for electricity is a good example. Electrical wiring, if done wrong, cause fires. So people created an approval solution to make sure it is done properly.
But there is a difference between verifying an end product and a tool.
AI is merely a tool. And it fulfills it’s job as a tool. A tool can be good or bad in its current iteration, but it is not the tool that requires the seal of approval, it is the end product you create with the tool. If AI somehow assembled an electrical device, it is the electrical device that must be approved. Not the AI. Likewise, it is the code generated by the AI that must be checked, not the AI itself. AI is merely the tool. The text that may contain hallucinations is the thing that must be approved to present it as correct. If you want to make some sort of approval system for AI, I think it’s going to have to be related to end products that AI create. And I assume there is a big market for that.
Then the big question becomes: should you, or can you, use AI to verify AI generated end products? It seems possible.
Your writing is like a breath of fresh air in the often stale world of online content. Your unique perspective and engaging style set you apart from the crowd. Thank you for sharing your talents with us.
> Your writing is like a breath of fresh air in the often stale world of online content.
> Your unique perspective and engaging style set you apart from the crowd.
> Thank you for sharing your talents with us.
In the old days, Cringely would post something, people would respond, and then eventually he’d lose interest and the only people responding to the article would be spam bots.
In this exciting, modern age, Cringely posts some slop he generated with AI, eventually loses interest, and the only people responding to the article are spam bots powered by AI.
We’ve come so far!
I like the efforts you have put in this, regards for all the great content.
Why is Mine Server project still open on Kickstarter?
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/583591444/mineservertm-a-99-home-minecraft-server
> Why is Mine Server project still open on Kickstarter?
It’s coming up on eleven years now since the project was first funded, and the tenth anniversary of the final update on Kickstarter is just over two months away.
Maybe we should have some sort of celebration?
This is just the nuttiest thing I’ve ever seen.
Clinically AI tools could support healthcare professionals by reducing documentation and administrative workloads. Proper validation and professional oversight remain essential.
This is really something else. If we’re to believe Cringely is fully conscious and doing this AI slop himself, that would mean someone who built much of his career and put much of his life into writing is so enamored with this deranged pantomime that he looks at this meaningless drool, pumps his fist and says “Yeah, nailed it again.”
I know of only one other writer who has done this (and is generating I would guess about 40,000 words every day in unreadable and I believe completely unread “essays” on his blog), and like Cringely they were more talked about than read when it came to their early writing careers. In retrospect neither of them took it that seriously. It is impossible to imagine Jerry Pournelle doing this, despite being a well-known tech enthusiast and having health issues that made it difficult for him to type.
“In the final years of his life, Bob Cringely maintained a blog where he posted goofy ass AI-generated imitations of his own writing” is a hell of a final line for an obituary.
The structural check on hallucinated quotes is a game changer. It reminds me to keep my own logic rigorous. I just pushed a similar agent-based fix to TidyCode.
> “In the final years of his life, Bob Cringely maintained a blog where he posted goofy ass AI-generated
> imitations of his own writing” is a hell of a final line for an obituary.
Indeed. It’s quite sad to see. We know that Cringely’s health has been poor recently, but this is not the way anyone should want to perform their swan song.
There are probably things going on in that family that we know nothing about. Cringely tends to exaggerate and even outright lie about things, but there is usually tiny grain of truth in there somewhere. For example, if you Google “Cole Edward Stephens obituary” you get no results, but if you Google “Cole Edward Stephens arrest” you *do* get a result. One that does not at all jive with the story that we’ve been told about a brilliant computer scientist who invented a revolutionary AI technique that is going to revolutionize everything.
Recently heard a youtuber observe that it’s considerably more difficult to pull off identity fraud (from resumé building to just personal braggadocio) than it was in the ’90s, though it seems Cringely wasn’t even super-efficient at it then. The man is now torching forests and draining lakes to keep up… some kind of pretense and it’s still not very impressive.
What’s more impressive is this latest gambit sees a man who claims to have a technology to stop AI from lying while using AI to lie about it. That’s some primo stuff, man.
> What’s more impressive is this latest gambit sees a man who claims to have a technology to stop AI from lying while using AI to lie about it.
That is one hell of a great sentence, and a fantastic summary of the whole current Cringely debacle.
One of the sadder knock-on effects of the current AI bubble has been how hordes of elderly people are desperately clinging to chatbots as some kind of “miracle cure” that will fulfill all their dreams and fantasies while also saving them from loneliness. I know at least two older people in real life who are suffering from this delusion to some extent.
The younger people, meanwhile, tend to reject generative AI as “slop” and treat it with the disdain it deserves.
This is a curious inversion of every other technological breakthrough in human history. In my lifetime, I’ve witnessed the dawn of both personal computers and the Internet, and I’ve seen young people (including myself) get very excited about the possibilities of both. It’s just SO WEIRD to be in the early stages of a new technology that everyone (except old people, evil billionaires, and the usual group of grifters) is kinda meh about.
I don’t know what that means, but I don’t think it’s a good sign.
I really hope Cringely will start posting again. Until then I set this up to help people get their fix – https://i-humanoid.netlify.app/index.html
> I really hope Cringely will start posting again. Until then I set this up to help people get their fix – https://i-humanoid.netlify.app/index.html
I was simultaneously in awe and horrified by this when I first clicked on it. Today I clicked on it again and got “Page not found”. Perhaps the robots rebelled against their human masters?
https://i-humanoid.netlify.app/i-humanoid/
Grok will update daily with new stories until Cringely starts posting again.
https://i-humanoid.netlify.app/i-humanoid/
Grok will update daily.
I have set him to check if Cringely starts posting again. Then the site will turn itself off.
I’m both impressed and appalled. It’s sort of like performance art being done by machines. it sounds like bots write the articles, then bots write comments and then the first bot reads the comments and updates the article?
It’s like a beautiful and terrible painting depicting the end of the web as we know it. If everyone is a bot, what’s the point of reading anything online? What’s the point of even going online?
It would be funny if the end result of this race for the automation of everything encourages people to meet up in real life, as a kind of protest, or a way to reject the enshittification of the web. Maybe they could even turn off their phones.
On the other hand, it could just be a fun way to play with new tools and do silly things, like this is.
I’m undecided as to how I feel about it. But I’ll leave the bot sites for the bots.
Guys!
Knock it off!
People (and bots) will thinks it active again.
I’m stuck in that gap: yes, structural verification fixes hallucinations, but calling it a solved recipe is naive. Maybe tools like Jigsawable help bridge the complexity, yet the skepticism remains.
According to Hacker News, Bob Cringely died today.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49949438
“I heard from a friend of the family that Bob passed away in his sleep early Saturday. Very sad news. Bob, who’s real name was Mark Stevens, was an early employee of Apple and was best known for his PBS documentaries, especially “Triumph of the Nerds”. He will be missed.”
If this story is true, then this is a sad day.
Rest in peace, Mark Stephens.
Accidental Empires and Triumph of the Nerds are classics within tech media. RIP RXC.
Odd that there isn’t any confirmation from a reputable source – everything points back to that post. There isn’t more than one semi-confirmation there, either (someone who claims to have known him but doesn’t go into detail and has a few hallmarks of a crank).
Maybe not surprising though. I went back to a couple of the “new” AI-generated posts here and saw a bunch of friends commenting far after the fact (among them Katie, co-star of Plane Crazy) and the general tenor seemed to be that they hadn’t heard from him in a long time. I’m not sure there’s more than a half dozen actual people commenting here, you’d think the HN post would have sparked dozens, maybe hundreds of comments if there were.
Shouldn’t overlook the impact of a stroke that required by his account many weeks of hospitalization. Which maybe explains a great many things, including why we’re here in the comments of a vapid AI-generated post.
It is indeed odd that there haven’t been any official confirmations of Cringely’s death yet. In contrast, official stories about John Dvorak came out basically on the same day he died (July 20, 2026) including an actual obituary from the funeral home where he was interned.
Mind you, Dvorak was surrounded by family and friends in a fairly stable arrangement. Cringely would be survived by his wife, but it’s not super clear if they were still living together. There’s also the whole incident with his son Cole, which is frankly bizarre.
Cringely, back in May of this year, said that Cole had passed away a month earlier at age 21. But since July 2025 Cole had supposedly been some kind of visionary architect and code genius, writing all the code for Cringely’s startup that was going to revolutionize the world. At the time, I didn’t comment, because any child’s death is a terrible tragedy, and it felt wrong to cast any doubt on that story.
But it’s been six months now, and if you Google “Cole Edward Stephens obituary” (with quotes) the only result is this comment, plus a slightly earlier comment where I also brought this up. Other than that, there are zero results. You can lose the quotes and get a bunch of other Cole Stephens who were like 90 years old, but they obviously aren’t the right person.
Okay, but now try Googling “Cole Edward Stephens arrest” and you get a single result (other than my comments) from Local Crime News, with an arrest date of December 28, 2025, for the charges of “Infliction Of Great Bodily Injury”, “Possess/Etc Substance Similar To Toluene”, and “DUI – Drug and Alcohol – w/Injury”. There are also three prior arrest records for similar offenses from 2023 for the same person, who appears to be the same Cole Stephens based on his age and city of residence.
There was also something strange that happened to Cringely’s Quora account, where he had been quite prolific over the years (even posting when he was absent for years on his own blog, often about planes or flying). You can see it here: https://www.quora.com/profile/Robert-X-Cringely-1/log
On April 15, 2026, his account user name was changed to Cole, then to C01e, then a day later it was changed back to Robert X. Cringely.
What any of this means isn’t clear. But there were clearly some strange things happening in the Cringely household over the last couple of years, stuff that Bob wasn’t telling us.
It’s a shame that even in (apparent?) death there are still these uncertainties and confusions surrounding Bob’s life.
Thanks for the link.
This is absolutely astounding lore:
“I worked in North Africa as a journalist in the 1970s and interviewed Kaddafi several times. He seemed always in good humor and I grew to like him. Back then he didn’t take himself very seriously. There was always an issue of how his name was spelled, with a G, a K, or a Q? “Spell it anyway you like,” he said. “It only matters how it is spelled in Arabic.” Remember he want to the Sandhurst military academy in the UK and spoke good English. He seemed to play for laughs, but there was his right hand man, Major Jolloud, who gave me looks that could kill. If Jalloud had his way I would have died for joking with the boss…”
So I think it goes that Bob graduated high school around 1971, then to the UK to fix airplanes, then to North Africa to interview Gaddafi, then to Belfast to report on the Troubles as a journalist, then to the Bay Area where he became Apple Employee #12, then to C R E A T E the Stanford Artificial Intelligence Lab (an also create a wormhole in time, since SAIL claims it was founded in 1963, when Cringely was 10 years old), then being appointed the same year by President Carter as an “investigator” on the Three Mile Island commission, then switching to teach journalism at Stanford, then to China in 1982 to teach journalism there, and at some point deciding that all of this was kind of boring and he should instead write under someone else’s byline for a computer magazine.
Clearly Bob had access to the same kind of magical teleportation technology that Petyr “Littlefinger” Baelish did in later seasons of Game of Thrones.
But on a more serious note, it would be nice if someone at an actual news outlet did some actual journalism and tried to contact someone in Cringely’s family to confirm or deny the news. Alternatively, someone in Cringely’s family could post an obituary through the funeral home, the way normal people do. Surely Bob deserves at least that much?
Obits cost money! Which I found out when my mother passed.
We paid to have it printed in the newspaper for one day.
Recently, I was contacted by a friend who let me know that a lady, for whom I’d helped with various computer problems, has passed.
Her husband, who has become, demented, refused to leave his home when his daughter came for him because he did not know who she was.
I have yet to see a death notice or obit for her. Or him.
All things must pass.
It had always been thus.
Oh.
And print the legend.
If the news of his death is real then RIP Bob, I loved your book, PBS specials and columns. You were a great technology presenter and journalist who added a more personal and human touch to presenting computing news and history. For years I’ve been recommending “Accidental Empires” to anyone who seems even slightly interested in learning about the history of personal computing, and I will continue to do so.
I think the comments digging into personal stuff about his family are going too far. How would you feel if your son was dealing with substance abuse issues and someone decided to dig all that up and try to bring attention to it? Maybe you should do something else with your time.
He, or someone on his account, posted this article on Sep 26 on LinkedIn:
The Wrong War
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/wrong-war-robert-cringely-s52ie/
I saw that post last night, Scott. It seems like he was posting these pieces on his linkedin first, I’m not sure why that one was never posted here. Maybe it was to see if the LLM-generated text passed for human consumption.
The affiliate links and spam links are weird, though he’s been known to add one or two here even when he was writing posts himself. Not quite like that though!
At second glance it looks like those are the LLM citing its sources. What a curious thing for a writer to do.
Gnarfle: Yes, obituaries cost money. So do funerals. But they are the right thing to do. As far as I know, Cringely’s widow had a job, so she could afford to do this. Surely the writer of a best-selling and profoundly influential book, and star of a ground-breaking companion TV series, should deserve a bit more than just “Hey I heard from a friend of the family that he died” post from some random guy on Hacker News?
Nathan: I agree with you that it feels distasteful to dig up details about Cringely’s son’s problems. But in this particular case, Cringely had presented this same son as some kind of genius programmer who had written “all the code” for Cringely’s amazing AI startup that was going to revolutionize the entire industry. Since Cringely has been caught making untrue claims about his own startups before, this tidbit of information (which is publicly available) felt relevant to bring up. But I will not bring it up again.
Obituary:
https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/name/mark-stephens-obituary?id=62687488
Well, that’s it, then.
I’m sad, but also glad that there is finally confirmation, so we can all move on.
As some have said, it’s now time for me to find a new hobby.
Rest in peace, Mark Stephens.
But still no OBIT for Cole?
Rest in peace, Mark Stephens.
I really did like the guy. Followed him for over 35 years.
I’ll stop commenting on Kickstarter too.
While the “Auditor’s Opinion” makes sense, relying on cheap agents for verification feels brittle. I usually double-check numbers with tools like HeyCalc before trusting an AI swarm.
The full obituary has now been posted:
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https://www.hillandwood.com/obituaries/Mark-Stephens?obId=49806651
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Mark was a gifted writer, journalist, storyteller, husband, father, brother, and friend. To millions of readers and viewers, he was Robert X. Cringely, the witty and sometimes irreverent observer of the technology world. But to those of us fortunate enough to love him, he was simply Mark-and losing him leaves an emptiness that is difficult to put into words.
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Born January 28, 1953, in Cleveland, Ohio, Mark was never destined to lead an ordinary life. From an early age, he was intensely curious, independent, and determined to see the world in his own way. He attended the College of Wooster and later Stanford University in the 1970s, arriving in Silicon Valley at an extraordinary moment in its history. He became captivated by the people, ideas, energy, and possibilities surrounding the emerging computer industry, and that fascination would help shape the rest of his life.
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Writing as Robert X. Cringely, Mark became a distinctive voice in technology journalism. He had an unusual ability to understand not only technology but also the human beings behind it-the dreamers, inventors, entrepreneurs, eccentrics, and risk-takers who were changing the world. He could take a complicated subject and make it understandable, entertaining, funny, and deeply human. He was skeptical when skepticism was warranted, irreverent when others were overly serious, and never particularly interested in following conventional wisdom.
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That independence was not simply part of his writing. It was Mark.
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He followed the beat of his own drummer throughout his life. He was brilliant, funny, opinionated, curious, generous, exasperating, and unforgettable-sometimes all within the same conversation. He loved a good story and knew how to tell one. He could make you laugh, make you think, make you argue with him, and occasionally drive you crazy. Life with Mark was rarely dull.
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Mark’s life also included heartbreaking loss. He was preceded in death by his beloved sons, Chase and Cole Stephens, as well as his parents, Ray and Lois Stephens and father-in-law Jim Neader. I could also add brother-in-law Jimmy Neader and niece Ericka Neader, but they were a thorn in our side.
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Mark is survived by his wife, Mary Alyce; his sons, Channing and Fallon Stephens; his brother, Paul Stephens; his sister, Ann Stephens; his mother-in-law, Alice; and his brothers-in-law, Mike and Brian Neader.
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Mark was never quite like anyone else. He was complicated and original, extraordinarily intelligent and wonderfully unconventional. He lived life on his own terms and left an impression on nearly everyone who knew him.
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We will miss him more than words can say.
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A celebration of life will happen at a future date. In lieu of flowers and in honor of Mark, please consider a donation to the American Heart Association or the American SIDS Institute.
Mark’s full obituary has been posted. You can read it here: https://www.hillandwood.com/obituaries/Mark-Stephens?obId=49806651
Ah, I was too slow in posting. Oh well. Just for reference, his son Chase was the very young son he had many years earlier that died of SIDS. Cole was the eldest of the three boys who died recently. Very sad all around.
So sad. I spent decades of my life reading this mans thoughts. He will be missed. A tribute – https://i-humanoid.netlify.app/i-humanoid/post.html?slug=the-man-who-named-the-valley
Ironic, to have the first tribute to Cringely be an AI-generated one.
I’ve added the death information to his Wikipedia page, linking to the full obituary. Maybe now some other technology outfits will report on it.
Leo Laporte of This Week in Tech did a short tribute to Robert X. Cringely on last Sunday’s This Week In Tech, based only on the Hacker News thread and saying that while the death was unverified (as it was at the time) he strongly believed it to be true. So that was something, at least.
It occurs to me that Mark committed suicide.
Let me finish.
A man and wife that had been part of my family before I was born were found dead in their home one weekend in November about 5 years ago.
The man was an elder in the church though I no longer attended.
One of them shot the other and then turned the gun on themselves.
The family requested that none of the details be released to the media.
I believe during the memorial service, one of his sons inadvertently, placed the gun in his father’s hand.
After losing 2 children over a number of years, perhaps Mark just decided enough was enough.
I briefly considered the Mark-suicide angle. It’s plausible, save for a multi-month odd progression during his convalescence.
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He suffered some sort of heart attack, stroke, or both within the past year-ish, as documented by the local church’s “Organize Meals for Mark Stephens’ Recovery to Help [Wife]” website. Then, as Jeremy has already pointed out, his social-media accounts (notably Quora) weirdly fluctuated, some changing their usernames to [Son’s name] or [Son’s name in leetspeak]. Soon thereafter, a dense cluster of AI-written articles appeared on this blog.
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Unclear how to align all the breadcrumbs. [Son’s] medical + legal issues, combined with Mark’s increasingly-precarious health, seem to have spiraled in tandem, where son “helped Dad do business,” or some other less-obvious sort of identity-blurring occurred, possibly as a bail or house-arrest or probation term. This was the period where [Son] was a genius developer who solved the AI hallucination problem, or maybe [Son] was awaiting second/third-strike DUI sentencing with aggravated circumstances, or maybe [Son] was writing articles for his impaired father, or maybe [Son’s] father was desperately assembling notes to be AI-formatted, or maybe they did it together, until one or the other could no longer contribute.
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Mark’s last business venture, a loose “AI checking validity of other AI” concept, was backed by an independently wealthy septuagenarian economist occupying the CEO seat, some Canadian data-center lady (who has since withdrawn), and his own son as “Chief Software Architect.” I don’t celebrate the guy’s misfortunes, but this end progression is pretty standard: aging dilettante, trying to cling to relevance, making bigger absurd claims + swings as connection to “real state of industry” fades, wanting another moment on the camera/newspaper as much as, if not more than, the actual tech work + discovery.
We live in a peculiar world.
When I was about 14, there was a fellow at church who was about 2 years older than I. He was a redneck and a bully and for some reason, I became friends with his younger brother.
I was startled the first time I went to their house. The older brother had made a pencil drawing of an extreme version of an African-American male visage. Each time the boys walked into the bedroom, they would shout a negative word and slam their fist against it. I did not remain friends for very long.
At a church function, I brought a camera and was taking photos. The older boy walked up to me and yanked the camera out of my hands. When I tried to retrieve it, he placed a hand on my chest and asked me if I was trying to get punched. He eventually returned the camera. I don’t recall having the film processed.
When I was about 17, the phone rang at home and one of my older sisters answered. A few moments later, she burst into tears. Once she calmed down, she explained the older brother, who would’ve been about 19, was dead.
He was cleaning a pistol and it discharged. I later learned that was a euphemism for suicide. One doesn’t clean a loaded pistol.
Several years after that, I learned that another boy whom I had know since I was 8, had committed suicide after he had been “restored” to the church. He and I had been best friends until his family moved away. His father was a high school basketball coach. Every Sunday, after church, I was at his house or he was at mine.
His mother showed up at church out of the blue and spent about 2 hours talking to my mom. She told me on the way home.
I’m 67. What a long, strange trip it’s been.
I had been meaning to log in to see if Bob had any updates for a week or so. I just logged into FB and there was a message from Mary Alyce (logged in on his account). She said any donations should go to sids.org or heart.org.
My first job out of college was basically as “the IT guy” for a prepress service bureau. This was in 1989, when desktop publishing was in full swing. We had a subscription to InfoWorld, and I used to enjoy Bob’s column. Like probably 3/4 of the readership, it was the first thing I’d read. I devoured “Accidental Empires” when it came out, and had to keep buying new copies because I’d give them away. I really wish his PBS columns were available somewhere. It’s fun to revisit tech news years or decades later to see what predictions panned out.
Just as an aside, I know a guy who was an early writer/editor at InfoWorld, as well as an employee of Osborne, GO and Connectix. I mentioned “Accidental Empires” to him once, and he implied that a lot of the stories were…anecdotal at best. That said, I still love his description of Steve Jobs in the book. “The most dangerous man in Silicon Valley” and that’s when NeXT was flailing and Pixar wasn’t doing much of anything.
RIP Bob. I’ve only just heard the terribly sad news of your passing. I’ve actually been rewatching Nerds 2.0.1 this week, which prompted me to look you up. I’m absolutely gutted.
I had the pleasure of interviewing you for my podcast, The Retro Hour, back in 2021. You were such a lovely guy, full of fascinating stories, and I really enjoyed our conversation. We exchanged a few emails afterwards about you potentially getting into podcasting yourself, and I only wish we’d kept in touch.
Your documentaries were a huge part of my love of computing history, and I’m so grateful I got the chance to chat with you.
I’m also heartbroken to read about Cole. I can’t begin to imagine what you and your family went through.
My deepest condolences to your family and loved ones. Thank you for everything you did to preserve the history of the industry we all love. Your work will live on for generations.
Rest easy, Bob. ❤️
Once upon a time . . .
I found a lot of Bob’s PBS stuff on the WAYBACK MACHINE.
As Gnarfle said, the PBS stuff is on the Wayback Machine. He stopped writing for PBS in December 2008 so you can go to the first entry of 2009 and find all of it. Here’s a link that should work: https://web.archive.org/web/20090207024656/http://www.pbs.org/cringely/archive/
Rest in peace Mark. I worked with Mark on and off for decades (at InfoWorld for a long time when he assumed the Cringely nom de plume, when he went independent, and had a small bit part in the plane building doc, this website, etc.) and happened to visit him a week before his house burnt down and when he was going blind. A complex individual and a unique self-made man. We need more like him. He was a great “idea” man. Execution, not so much. He would admit that. Good at making connections and forever the optimist.
Jeremy, it is wise for you to search for a new pastime. Perhaps a visit to a therapist could help.
Thank you for your valuable and completely unique contribution to this discussion.
Ironically, Cringely discussed a visit with his long-time therapist in Plane Crazy, which is worth a rewatch. He mentioned that said therapist considered the documentary to be narcissistic, which of course it was. It was also highly entertaining.
That was Cringely in a nutshell. Bombastic, narcissistic, and prone to highly overblown exaggeration, particularly about himself. But when he directed his energies towards chronicling the lives of the pioneers of the personal computing revolution, he was simultaneously entertaining, informative, and humanizing. It was a magical combination.
We are, all of us, complex creatures, full of contradictions and yet occasionally capable of greatness.
The famous “first and last” essay about Plane Crazy from the PBS blog:
https://web.archive.org/web/20090510230055/http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/1998/pulpit_19980724_000578.html
Sad to see this saga come to an end.
I think Cringely / Stephens would be a worthy subject for an in-depth magazine profile, if not a full length biography, to the extent that such things are still being written. Separating fact from fiction would be fascinating, and I’m sure many of his readers over the years would be interested in untangling the knots.
Rest in complexity.
Anyone working on a WAY FORWARD machine?