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When my three sons, ages 13, 11, and 9 decided to do a summer business together I thought it could be almost anything. After all, they’ve visited three dozen tech startups with me in our RV and they’ve been surrounded by technology entrepreneurs their entire lives. What business would it be?
I just never expected a $99 Minecraft server.
It’s brilliant, really. Minecraft is hugely popular but the Minecraft hardware market is almost nonexistent. It’s not that nobody thought to do such a server but that it’s a business idea most entrepreneurs would see as not having legs. It will scale, sure, but will it endure? In a few months someone — no doubt someone in Asia — will copy the idea, sucking all the profit out of the business. But wait a minute, these are my kids and they aren’t thinking much past Christmas. Like little Steve Jobs’s they don’t care if their market is cannibalized. They just want to change the world.
So the boys named me their VC and got me started buying little embedded computer boards. They went through dozens of them looking for the right combination of price and performance. Then it was a matter of choosing the right OS, the right Minecraft multiuser server (there are several, some of them architecturally quite different though functionally identical). And they put together a package of integration features and services to make the little server dead simple to use.
They wrote a frigging API!!!
None of this happened in a vacuum. Paul Tyma and Bob Lee were especially helpful. Google those names. xBox father j allard agreed to help out, too.
The wonder of this project is not that they started it or finished it but that our technical culture has reached the point where such a thing is actually doable. Think about it: the CTO is 11!
And he even has an exit strategy. “Microsoft is crazy not to have a product in this category,” Cole said, clearly having never seen a Zune. “After Christmas maybe we’ll sell out to them.”
Nine year-old Fallon, on the other hand, wants to be Microsoft or — even better — Apple.
But I keep telling them it kind of depends on how many Mineservers™ they sell, don’t you think?
Please take a look at what my kids have done. And if you know an avid Minecraft player, or the parent of one, please send along to them the Kickstarter link, because my kids owe me a lot of money.
Whilst applauding the Cringely offspring’s ingenuity, I have to point out that Microsoft have a cloud server at https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/marketplace/partners/microsoft/minecraftserver/ …
I’m not sure I get your point. There are thousands of public Minecraft servers but almost no branded servers you can buy for your home that offer security and ease of use. This cloud server from Microsoft emulates an Ubuntu server and offers none of the value-added services of the Mineserver (dynamic DNS, phone app, white list, etc.). It’s no more secure or friendly to administer than any other Minecraft server, it just happens to live in Microsoft’s cloud.
It seems to be bult into humans to say “that’s the same as…..” When they hear a business idea. Edward De Bono says that this is one of the best ways to kill new ideas.
I’m guessing someone said to Larry and Sergey “Same as AltaVista”.
Which puts your kids out in the general public with a whole bunch of other um…. colourful people.. this is also a great idea for minecraft edu (closed servers inside a school or library),
@Cameron: exactly, I would much rather have my kids on a private Minecraft server where I know exactly who they’re playing with. Sure you can already do that with cloud servers, but not every kid’s parent is technically savvy enough to set one up and admin it. If this Mineserver works out like a home appliance with the knowledge requirements of setting a WiFi password on the average router, I can definitely see the value.
What a wonderful family story!! 🙂 Good job boys…and Dad.
i’ve never played a modern video game so i see where having your own server is like having your own basketball court – however, won’t you clog up the channels of your internet service and be on the hit list from your isp for running your own server on a home plan internet? (not cringley specifically but the potential customers).
There is remarkably little public information available on the bandwidth consumption of such servers, but the boys tell me a typical external client seems to require about 40 kbps — about a tenth of a webcam, for example. So I don’t think ISPs will notice very much. Most of our game action is local with at most 2-3 Internet players, who are at a disadvantage because of somewhat greater latency. Remember you only have 20 (or 50) player slots available.
Actually, there’s a ton of info about upstream bandwidth requirements, if you bother to go look for it. 36~40 kb/s is relatively average, though I would note that minecraft is much more “spiky” then most games, as sending chunks is a rather heavy operation compared to just movement and such. As someone that’s run a server from home and actually played remotely on it, the lag does get pretty bad, esp. when chunks are loading(this was with me as the only player on the server, connecting from a fiber connection to my server on high speed cable running at about 30/5).
The boys found lots of people asking the bandwidth question and very few answering it. They were surprised at your report of spiky performance given how much more bandwidth you have compared to us (we’re on a 6/1.5 fixed wireless connection — we’d gladly pay for more but it isn’t offered). What are your server specs? Is it dedicated or running in background? How many simultaneous users do you have when the spikiness shows?
That’s running on quad-core AMD clocked at around 3ghz, 8gb of ram, under linux. It was pretty much the only thing running other then some light file storage and access stuff, and I was the only player. I would question if they have tried playing remotely, as I have always noticed issues if the server isn’t on something with good upstream. And the spikeyness is just a fact of how minecraft’s protocol and world works. For mos activity of just moving around and such, you need a hundreds of bytes a second at most, but when you start sending chunks, those get heavy. A solid chunk from bedrock to sky is 256*16*16, or about 65KB. So there will be about 2 seconds, at 30~40KB/s, just loading a raw chunk. Any entities in that chunk just add even more bandwidth. You start moving with decent speed, like minecart or similar, you’ll end up effectively needing to load multiple chunks per second to keep up. Standard chunk radius is, if I recall correctly, 10 or so, but let’s be conservative and say 5. That means, moving one direction, you’ll need to load around 10 chunks every 16 blocks you travel, Even just walking, which is apparently around 4 blocks per second, that means, averaged out, 2.5 chunks per second, or a minimum of 163KB/s. This number is lower if you aren’t just forging ahead, and you are spending time in one area, and so averages out to around 36~40KB/s once you add in entity updates and block updates, and these things will depend greatly on play style(an explorer will use more bandwidth then a stay at home builder).
Another note: all my numbers have been in kilobytes per second. Your 6/1.5 translates to 750/187.5 in KB/s terms, which is not that much in real terms.
Awesome. I hope they sell boatloads of ’em. 🙂
great story, love it! missed one thing on kickstarter though – throw in a level for a small donation and/ or a Tshirt so we can support their efforts – not a gamer but now a big fan of the boys!
No small donations but we’ll be adding logo t-shirts on Thursday as an update.
“A good idea, product , technology and the rest will follow”. Not exactly. It’s still pretty much people that get things done, not machines nor technology. Even the best of ideas, the best technologies tend fail (at least initially) unless there are enough people that support it. That being said, to me, and in particular, the success of a crowd funding project is not just the merit of the idea alone. Its actually the merit of the conversation that it builds around it. How it brings people together. More specifically, how the conversation adds to the social bonding between people.
As a parent it is most inspiring to see how these young kids have put together something really cool, something we can talk about, start a conversation, strengthen our social binding, between friends and between parents and our children.
Well done.
Carrément impressionnant !
Quelle famille… bravo Bob !
(in plain english: really impressive! What a familly, congrat Bob!)
Yup, I need one now. Please take my money.
Where is the “Buy” link?
You can pledge on Kickstarter now but the boxes won’t ship until November.
Very impressive, Good Luck Cringely Clan.
This is a great project in every regard: your kids will learn all about business and manufacturing. My son is a huge Minecraft fan (we even have the Minecraft-themed fiction books). He and his friends are at the stage where they’d like to venture into multiplayer and this may be the ticket. I just backed the Kickstarter. Good luck!
Great video, great-looking product and great effort dad and mom you should be proud
What are the hardware specs for this? My son is big into Minecraft and is skeptical about the processor and memory to support this many players. I have helped him to build one with an old PC and Linux, but it is not as easy or clean. This looks like a good x-mas present idea for him.
We’re trying to not say too much about specs to avoid being reverse-engineered before sundown, but the trick here is to use a headless OS and server software that uses all available cores. Most Minecraft multiuser servers use only one core. The Mineserver is multicore and the Pro has twice as many cores and we use every one. Twenty and 50 users are well within our capability. We even have some over-clocking capability that can give us another 10 percent or so but haven’t had to use it.
Still, without hardware specs you’re still asking people to buy a pig in a poke.
Maybe but if you don’t like it when it arrives you can always repurpose it for something else. A small embedded device that runs linux can usually be good for a few gazillion things.
Assuming it has the horsepower to do any of those gazillion things, which is where some hardware specs would be nice. It seems like a completely reasonable request, to have some information about the hardware you’re buying.
For 99 bucks, you can take a chance, surely?
They are both ARM-based. The Mineserver has four cores, a gigabit of RAM and runs at 1.5 GHz. The Mineserver Pro has eight cores, two gigs, and runs at 2 GHz. Both have large aluminum head sinks and the Pro includes a thermostatically-controlled fan. We’re using a headless Linux that’s very memory-efficient and the most powerful Minecraft multiuser server there is. As Channing says in the video we have more RAM per user than the typical public server (the spec there is 500 users on a 16-gig system). It’s plenty powerful for the job.
Not necessarily. This is being pitched as a plug-in solution, so the specs of interest are guarantees on # of users, max world size, bandwidth for remote users and other specs related to Minecraft as a service, rather than raw hardware. Or are you thinking of repurposing the HW for other uses?
Could you at least describe how you got minecraft to use multiple cores? Is this custom software you have written, and would thus have to maintain, or is this someone else’s code? If you have to maintain it, what kind of guarantees are you offering that you will for the foreseeable future, and how long is that future? If not, which software are you using? ARM architectures vary dramatically in actual real world terms, can you give better specs then just 1.5ghz 4core and 2ghz 8core? After all, I run a 4ghz AMD 8 core and it’s considered on par with an intel 3.3ghz 6 core.
Okay, I ordered one and I don’t even play Minecraft. But I am a sucker for kids stepping out into the business world. Good job.
Great project, Bob! We’re creating a Minecraft-oriented kids’ curriculum at CodeAbode, and these servers seem like they’d be perfect for the students to use as they learn to code by modding Minecraft.
From a price and power consumption perspective I have to agree. They’ll also run pretty much any Linux and server software, but as a device that’s sold on the basis of ease-of-use we are trying to hide most of the interfaces you may want to reveal. You might want to also consider using a Raspberry Pi for a somewhat cheaper solution, albeit one that supports fewer users.
This article just put a big smile on my face. You’re a great dad, Bob. And the “kids owe me a LOT of money”… just made me laugh. We all would be financially richer without kids, but emotionally poorer.
Nice idea. I recognize exactly why a personal server is important for kids. Keeps them off the public servers. Let’s them focus on playing with kids they know.
I’m not so sure about the value proposition over running my own server on my own PC (which I do now). Usually when it’s running my kid is playing minecraft on said PC. So it’s in use anyway. But maybe your kids tend to let the server run 24-7 so their friends can come and go?
Just pledged for one anyway. $59 for what looks like a custom-built RPI is not a bad deal. (+$4 US shipping)
If this is a Minecraft server designed for home use, does it include any sort of VPN functionality to allow outside access even in the absence a fixed IP from your ISP? (That’s what I had to provision to allow my godsons to access a Minecraft server at our home. We’ve since moved to a hosted server, though.)
Also, how does this server work with custom modpacks? We have our own modpack we use with all our favorite mods in it (called, modestly enough, the Erbosoft Plus Pack).
We use not a VPN but a Dynamic DNS service. The distinction in this case is minor but comes down to our not encrypting the data stream. We could encrypt but then wouldn’t support as many total users. Our GUI admin server includes mods and plugins OR you can dive underneath to find the same SSH command line terminal console you are used to. So I’d say you are okay with the one qualification being that our multiuser server has to be compatible with all the mods. It generally is compatible but tends to be one version behind Vanilla Minecraft. That’s the price we pay for being able to use every core. You can always swap-out our server for any other you like (say Bukkit) but that definitely takes you back to to the CLI console.
If you aren’t using a VPN, then do you have some way for external users to do NAT traversal? Or would we need to open up a port?
One data point – I too just figured out how to dump a minecraft server in amazon’s cloud because of my tremendous fear of poking a hole in my own firewall. It costs me about $25/month…and no traffic flows through my firewall. Am I insane for worrying about the security implications? why?
Sadly, it seems my son has moved on to terraria – which seems like it only runs under windows – and thus will cost me more. if the security implications are negligible – I’d love for your boys to do a cheap(ish) terraria server.
Any server can be compromised but this one boots a fresh copy of the OS each time so persistent malware is unlikely. Use of a white list makes it far less likely, too, that pirates will board the ship.
Is it possible to pledge for 2 of them? Christmas is coming….
We don’t have a two-pack option. Should we? At present I guess you can just pledge more than once. We’ll look into this.
Great stuff! Could be onto a winner here, Minecraft is a killer app and this is great to see small form factor computers being used for it.
I remember talking to Mr Minecraft ( Markus Persson ) when it was in beta and telling him that it would never catch on. That people would get bored of it quickly and it was just a nice demo and nothing more.
Stupid me!
Just put in my order for my niece and nephew! I’m assuming this is also part of your retirement plan.
What retirement plan? At age 62 with children this age retirement planning is very simple: you carry lots of life insurance then work until you die. While that sounds dour it really isn’t because there’s none of that scrimping and saving required. More toys.
Congrats!
A great idea, and a great Dad for encouraging his kids to take on this sort of project.
Has any thought been given to supporting Minecraft PE (pocket edition)?
Good sir.
Hope your boys will be at the proper time.
For your consideration.
https://www.haigarmen.com/mineblock-product-design/
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/haig/mineblock-a-small-affordable-minecraft-home-server
Best
I hadn’t seen the Mineblock. We looked at doing this a year ago, too, and decided against it then. Cheap hardware wasn’t yet powerful enough. The problem wasn’t Mineblock, it was trying to do it in 2014. Well that and maybe seeking too much money.
Love the idea… A parent of 2 boys, I’m in deep in the Minecraft world (I play too!!) The KS video mentioned that this was attempted last year, and the boys renewed the interest. Why did it fail last year?
Also, I understand you not wanting to release specs, but the PC version allows limitless travel/exploration; in addition my boys love to create multiple worlds. All eat up storage space – how much does the unit have on it?
As explained above we didn’t fail in 2014 but decided the market wasn’t ready after testing a couple prototypes (Raspberry Pi and Beaglebone Black). This year’s models have one gig for the Mineserver and two gigs for the Pro as well as eight gigs of SSD in each. In a headless configuration this is plenty of memory for over-building, especially if your child tends to play with the same few friends. With three Minecraft players in our house the typical real world load is five users with two of those coming over the Internet. We’ve run 20 simultaneous users but that requires more effort than you’d guess just attracting players.
Bob, the $59 level is already sold out. So I was looking at the $69 level for the Wifi version. But I don’t want to run it on Wifi. So is the “optional” wifi adapter really optional? I mean, does it also have an Ethernet port so I don’t have to use wifi?
WiFi is completely separate so the gig-Ethernet port remains available and we’ll ship even the WiFi models with a one-meter CAT6 patch cable.
Sold!
one of your commenters is missing the point. Although a minecraft connection might eat 40kbit/sec – good quality gameplay requires consistently low latency – which you get by having the server be local.
What is Minecraft?
“Minecraft is a game about breaking and placing blocks. At first, people built structures to protect against nocturnal monsters…” https://minecraft.net/ Sounds like what my generation did before kindergarten and computers. Only we used real block shaped objects that we could hold and touch in 3 dimensions. I guess computers haven’t advanced enough yet. Eventually we moved on to Erector sets. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erector_Set
Please, could you elaborate on the the requirements on the client side?
(I am not a gamer, just a parent watching the marvels the kids build with Minecraft on their android phones)
Thank you a lot in advance
The video is super-awesome! I especially like 1:43 😉
Good stuff. Hope it is successful enough to have some extra cash for a few christmases!
How about a flier for marketing this. I mean a real laid out print piece where I can download a PDF and print a few and cut them into quarters and hand out to kids (grade 1 boys are all over minecraft) at school. For marketing how about having something simple for Facebook. Grandmas like passing on things on Facebook but might not be able to explain the deal. Grandmas also love supporting this kind of grandkid entrepreneurship 🙂
Get a leg-up on the JVM GC pauses
http://vanillajava.blogspot.co.za/2014/06/minecraft-and-off-heap-memory.html
The real value of the project is the inspiration and education the kids will get from thinking about it. Where it ends up is less important than families making life magic.
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Non gamer – but that presentation makes me want to buy the thing and check out the game
Great job
Obviously their interest is in Minecraft, but maybe consider wrapping other games? I know guys that don’t care as much for Minecraft, but certainly would for Counterstrike or other games to garner some older folk… either way, pretty awesome Christmas gift idea!
This is a great project. As dad of twin 8yo boys who love Minecraft we are looking forward to seeing this funded.
One thing I would love to see a blog post or update here about is the IT setup you have in your kids playroom in the embedded video. I see some good ideas in the photos but would welcome hearing more detail about what you have in place for your boys.
Thank you
You have now reached your $15,000 Kickstarter goal, and you still have 19 days left in your funding campaign.
Congratulations, boys/Bob!!!
Does it support MineCraft Pocket Edition, or just “regular” MineCraft?
This update regarding Minecraft PE was posted yesterday on Kickstarter…
“The two big lessons we learned from Day One were that people want t-shirts and they want to play Minecraft on their iOS devices. So later this week we’ll be adding t-shirts to our Kickstarter page and we’ll also announce a stretch goal to support the portable version of Minecraft. The challenge in this latter move is to make it effortless on the part of users and admins which means running TWO parallel servers with quite different command structures. This is well within our capability but will require additional programming. So look for that stretch goal soon as well as possibly one other.”
It’s great.
The only off note in the video was where you joked about “greed”. It’s a funny joke, and perfectly reasonable, but it’s still the kind of joke that will hurt conversions.
We are really rooting for the boys like crazy at that point, and it’s a state-change to be reminded that it’s about money. It also injects doubt as to how much the boys are doing it, and how much dad might be pulling the strings.
If you plan to recut, I’d drop that bit.
Hmm, Is there a chance for an FTP? I would love to be able to access the files. Adding plugins, changing the Jar file.. thats the best part about minecraft servers to me. customization is key.. (Coming from a 13 year old)
I was/am a huge sucker for minecraft servers. I ran one from a Minecraft server host for about a year and it gave me a good fun time… If I could do all the Fun minigames, and customizations like I did on that server, then this would be the best invention ever made in the whole world.
Re: “best invention ever made” I’d vote for the wheel, electricity, and Shannon’s information theory, first.
Are there any trademark issues with the name?
Is there a use for something like Timeseal to deal with latency? The clients check their own time and send the details to the server, so it can keep things fair.
Perhaps the server could send a ping command to each computer to establish individual network latencies, then insert a delay for every connection such that the total latency is the same for each.
TimeSeal is an established product. I just don’t know if Minecraft would have the need for it like a chess server.
In one of Bob’s comments, he said “Most of our game action is local with at most 2-3 Internet players, who are at a disadvantage because of somewhat greater latency.” So the Internet player’s would want latency equalization.
Does Minecraft require the internet to do a LAN only game, using the Mineserver gadget?
My kids want to play in the car on trips, and I have a travel router.. I’d like to just plug in the MineServer, and let them play together.
Thanks!
Robert:
VERY cool project – love the concept!
And the fact that the initial supporters get a discount – EXCELLENT.
drew
Good looking kids Bob. You done well.
$50 amazon tablet running minecraft server 24/7 could be a good option for people. It’s a secure OS with updates and setting up the server is as easy as installing an app. No remote configuration needed. Quad core mediatek with 1GB ram. Used chromebook for the “pro” edition. Costs a few dollars in electricity and is larger, but has great performance. Easy to be the admin, just type on the keyboard. No ssh session needed.
Doesn’t it require an internet connection? “servers are hosted on professional AWS servers that are live 24/7 with no lag” https://www.amazon.com/LEET-Realms-Multiplayer-Minecraft-Server/dp/B00QOC5I3C/ref=cm_rdp_product
Good app Ronc, but it is only a pocket edition server service.
Here is the company page:
https://leet.cc
I really like how they use the credit system. If I were to start a minecraft server kickstarter, $99 would buy 2 years of an all you can use 100 user max AWS server. The power users would be subsidized by the people who stop using the service after a couple of months.
If people care about the environment they will buy services and not hardware that is destined for the landfill.
Re: “will buy services and not hardware that is destined for the landfill” I think one needs to consider the cost, especially since all services that are not free or ad supported have an infinite cost. A service that costs as little as $5/mo. costs $1200 over twenty years, even more than that as the price goes up due to inflation. Also, there is no guaranty the service provider isn’t wasting resources to avoid paying people to repair stuff. Also, people should read the Amazon reviews of the Leet server, as I noticed quite a few bad reviews.
Liva PC $110, 64bit baytrail, 2GB ram, 32GB emmc with case, ethernet and wifi included. Just install Ubuntu and run the free minecraft server on Java. Single thread performance matters.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856501007
Acer Aspire 11, $165 celeron 2GB ram, 32GB emmc, Windows 8.1, HP Stream 11, $180, Windows 10. No Ethernet port. This could be left on 24/7 and it can be the child’s own pc too.
What boards do the MineServers run on? I saw some ODROID in the kickstarter video.
Google Cloud minecraft server instructions:
https://cloud.google.com/solutions/gaming/minecraft-server
Regular (PC) edition. Up to 50 players, no lag, low cost.
Save the environment!
Question in my mind is upgrade/patching capability. Will it support automated updates of the JVM, Minecraft, server wrapping, and possibly OS?
Also kudos on beating others to the punch on the “Mineserver” trademark.
Not sure they have actually beat others to the punch: http://mineserver.be/ https://github.com/Mineserver/mineserver.js
Not sure on hardware vs. software as far as trademarking, and I don’t know if either of those has actually trademarked the name, but Mineservers is already trademarked, https://mineservers.com/ so they’d have to fight a pretty strong “likelihood of confusion” case.
I did get in on the lower level of the Kickstarter drive. I will still support it and keep my order but I would like to point out that to a Minecraft newbie, I did not understand the platform limitations. My sons primarily play Minecraft on iPads and PS3s. The way I understand it now is that it only works with the PC version of the game and the iOS functionality is a stretch goal. I think this should be made clearer on the Kickstarter page.
Good point. I couldn’t find any mention on the Kickstarter page about the client that goes with the server. In fact it specifically mentions iOS and Android used for admin purposes. So I guess one has to know that Minecraft: Pocket Edition is not Minecraft.
Correct, the Xbox/Pocket Edition/PS4/ and PC versions all currently don’t play with one another.
In a future Minecraft update Microsoft is looking to allow cross-platform play though.
My son has his two of his own Youtube channels dedicated to Minecraft (betaboy40 & alphaboy40). I’ll ask if he can do a shout out for your boys.
Hi Bob,
The Kickstarter page says:
“It’s easy to find. Every $99 Mineserver™ has a unique name chosen by its owner (wildweasel.mineserver.com for example) and can be discovered by players you like (more on this below) from all over the Internet without ever using an IP address.”
There’s no additional information though so the “more on this below” seems like it should be updated (or remove). Personally, I would be interested to hear how you implemented such a system, if you care to add more details.
In any case, congrats on meeting your Kickstarter goal 🙂
Wow… Just… Wow!
For all the folks above who are noodling about the details of this project, I want to say this… A trio of kids aged 13, 11, and 9 have just raised more that 23K of financing for a project that they needed to raise 15K to complete. And they’ve still got a fairly sizable funding window in which they may raise event more money.
Yes they had help, as everyone who’s ever managed to start a business has had. Heck, they had some really awesome help, as everyone who’s ever tried to start a business probably wished they had.
Could this have ever happened ten years ago? Maybe. Fifteen years ago? Almost certainly not.
It’s absolutely amazing that some little folks everyone is so quick to dismiss as “a bunch of kids” are succeeding in a business startup. OK, it’s not Microsoft or Apple yet, but give them a few more years. Who knows where this initial success will drive them.
Kudos to Mom and Dad for supporting their children in what would have been a fool’s errand a decade ago. The world has changed immeasurably in the past few years, and it’s wonderful that some parents have managed to embrace those changes.
Amazing kids. Awesome project. I’m totally impressed and wish everyone continued success!
Congratulations to your kids. Even for an adult this would be a reasonably clever as well as solid idea.
Where are the logo T-shirts?
Bob,
Congrats on the successful Startup/Kickstarter Campaign. For those of us who shamefully missed our chance to pledge to the campaign, is there an online waiting list somewhere for those of us who want to order the second wave of Mineservers (I could at least announce the order to my son as a Xmas present)?
And how much extra would you charge for it to be signed by you and the boys?
Best Regards,
_Mark
p.s. When I taught HS Business and Computer Science classes in the 90s, I used to show your “Triumph of the Nerds” documentaries to my students.
A good idea, product , technology and the rest will follow. Not exactly. It’s still pretty much people that get things done, not machines nor technology. Even the best of ideas, the best technologies tend fail unless there are enough people that support it.
This would a great idea, and it WOULD be amazing that a CTO is 11, and it WOULD be crazy that our technology has come so far as to have this happen, but it hasn’t.
Missed deadlines, disappointed customers, no communication have all lead to this project becoming dangerously close to a failure.
Personally I am one of the “backers.” I have begged you for months to contact me so I can acquire a “new” deadline for this project. I have requested my money back, and still receive no communication.
As I stated in my 8 previous contacts with the Kickstarter project, I would like someone to contact me regarding this project, and if that is not possible I would like to know where to serve the small claims court papers.
Thank you,
~C