Comments on: A belt and suspenders for your cloud storage http://www.cringely.com/belt-suspenders-cloud-storage-122387?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=a-belt-and-suspenders-for-your-cloud-storage Cringely on technology Tue, 21 May 2013 03:17:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: Al Wilson http://www.cringely.com/belt-suspenders-cloud-storage-122387#comment-278135 Al Wilson Sun, 03 Feb 2013 12:04:05 +0000 http://www.cringely.com/?p=4668#comment-278135 Is your Dungeons & Dragons score database really so important?

]]> Is your Dungeons & Dragons score database really so important?

]]> By: Mr Lee http://www.cringely.com/belt-suspenders-cloud-storage-122387#comment-262756 Mr Lee Thu, 27 Sep 2012 04:59:52 +0000 http://www.cringely.com/?p=4668#comment-262756 This is why I use the IBM SmartCloud system. Nobody is going to buy that company.

]]> This is why I use the IBM SmartCloud system. Nobody is going to buy that company.

]]> By: Tom http://www.cringely.com/belt-suspenders-cloud-storage-122387#comment-262554 Tom Tue, 25 Sep 2012 02:57:41 +0000 http://www.cringely.com/?p=4668#comment-262554 Back in June you mentioned that you had an ipv6 comcast address and your home network was ipv6 ready. Now in this article you're stating that you're using ClearOS. I didn't think clearOS supported ipv6.. So how are you able to do this?

]]> Back in June you mentioned that you had an ipv6 comcast address and your home network was ipv6 ready. Now in this article you’re stating that you’re using ClearOS. I didn’t think clearOS supported ipv6.. So how are you able to do this?

]]> By: Chad http://www.cringely.com/belt-suspenders-cloud-storage-122387#comment-256146 Chad Fri, 17 Aug 2012 17:13:12 +0000 http://www.cringely.com/?p=4668#comment-256146 My first job in IT (it wasn't called that way back) was as a tape monkey. Collins Radio (can I say that?) had the largest tape library west of the Mississippi river in Cedar Rapids. It was a full time job copying old tapes to new ones (and then re-certifying the old) because the tape manufacturer said tapes used for archival storage weren't much good past four years. Any idea how long writable DVDs are good for?

]]> My first job in IT (it wasn’t called that way back) was as a tape monkey.

Collins Radio (can I say that?) had the largest tape library west of the Mississippi river in Cedar Rapids. It was a full time job copying old tapes to new ones (and then re-certifying the old) because the tape manufacturer said tapes used for archival storage weren’t much good past four years.

Any idea how long writable DVDs are good for?

]]> By: Jaker http://www.cringely.com/belt-suspenders-cloud-storage-122387#comment-254955 Jaker Sun, 12 Aug 2012 17:06:57 +0000 http://www.cringely.com/?p=4668#comment-254955 Cloud storage is philosophically like datagram service: usually reliable, but no guarantees. As long as users are aware of this it's quite useful. It's a tool like a shovel or screw driver; not an end to end solution.

]]> Cloud storage is philosophically like datagram service: usually reliable, but no guarantees. As long as users are aware of this it’s quite useful. It’s a tool like a shovel or screw driver; not an end to end solution.

]]> By: Joel Upchurch http://www.cringely.com/belt-suspenders-cloud-storage-122387#comment-254884 Joel Upchurch Sun, 12 Aug 2012 02:25:02 +0000 http://www.cringely.com/?p=4668#comment-254884 What about if you back up your data on Dropbox, Google drive and Skydrive? Of course most of my non-video data will fit on a couple of DVDs or the flash drive on my keychain.

]]> What about if you back up your data on Dropbox, Google drive and Skydrive? Of course most of my non-video data will fit on a couple of DVDs or the flash drive on my keychain.

]]> By: Chares Moorehead http://www.cringely.com/belt-suspenders-cloud-storage-122387#comment-254709 Chares Moorehead Sat, 11 Aug 2012 02:34:37 +0000 http://www.cringely.com/?p=4668#comment-254709 Besides backing up data, backing up applications is also a good idea. This assumes you don’t want to pay for the same program more than once. I was sure I had all my original program disks stored safely away. But when the need arose, I could not find all of them. (The missing ones must have been those downloads that seemed like such a good idea at the time.)

]]> Besides backing up data, backing up applications is also a good idea. This assumes you don’t want to pay for the same program more than once.

I was sure I had all my original program disks stored safely away. But when the need arose, I could not find all of them. (The missing ones must have been those downloads that seemed like such a good idea at the time.)

]]> By: David White http://www.cringely.com/belt-suspenders-cloud-storage-122387#comment-254665 David White Fri, 10 Aug 2012 22:54:05 +0000 http://www.cringely.com/?p=4668#comment-254665 Excellent article, Bob. Thanks for posting it. Like you and many here, I'm old enough to remember why we got our data off of main frames before. Now they are back, just with a fancy name. I backup onto two different brands of optical disc (with one set off site) as well as removable hard drives since recordable discs eventually fade. Refreshing backed up data onto fresh media is important. As we get older, we accumulate more data, but at least storage capacities continue to improve.

]]> Excellent article, Bob. Thanks for posting it. Like you and many here, I’m old enough to remember why we got our data off of main frames before. Now they are back, just with a fancy name.

I backup onto two different brands of optical disc (with one set off site) as well as removable hard drives since recordable discs eventually fade. Refreshing backed up data onto fresh media is important.

As we get older, we accumulate more data, but at least storage capacities continue to improve.

]]> By: John http://www.cringely.com/belt-suspenders-cloud-storage-122387#comment-254600 John Fri, 10 Aug 2012 16:14:38 +0000 http://www.cringely.com/?p=4668#comment-254600 A few comments on backup. This applies equally well to one home or their enterprise. 1) You need your backup to be there when you have a serious problem. If you use a service it must be there when you need it. It is important the service has a viable business model and will stay in business. 2) The ability to RECOVER data is the purpose of backing it up. One usually adds or changes a small amount of their total data on a daily or weekly basis. It is easy to backup small amounts of data. The process of recovering data usually takes longer than backing it up. If you need to recover a lot of data, it is going to take a long time. I did a test of a personal cloud backup service recently. It was going to take it 300+ hours to recover my data. If you are running a business, can you be without your data for 2 weeks or more? 3) Everyone has sensitive data. There are many government and industry regulations on the protection of data. Your backup plan absolutely, positively must be secure and meet all the rules. If something goes wrong it will be YOU who pays for the fines, penalties, damages, etc. 4) Regarding personal data, you can put a lot of photographs and personal data onto a DVD. Every 6 months a burn a set of DVD's and put them in our safe deposit box. It does not take a lot of time or many DVD's.

]]> A few comments on backup. This applies equally well to one home or their enterprise.

1) You need your backup to be there when you have a serious problem. If you use a service it must be there when you need it. It is important the service has a viable business model and will stay in business.

2) The ability to RECOVER data is the purpose of backing it up. One usually adds or changes a small amount of their total data on a daily or weekly basis. It is easy to backup small amounts of data. The process of recovering data usually takes longer than backing it up. If you need to recover a lot of data, it is going to take a long time.

I did a test of a personal cloud backup service recently. It was going to take it 300+ hours to recover my data. If you are running a business, can you be without your data for 2 weeks or more?

3) Everyone has sensitive data. There are many government and industry regulations on the protection of data. Your backup plan absolutely, positively must be secure and meet all the rules. If something goes wrong it will be YOU who pays for the fines, penalties, damages, etc.

4) Regarding personal data, you can put a lot of photographs and personal data onto a DVD. Every 6 months a burn a set of DVD’s and put them in our safe deposit box. It does not take a lot of time or many DVD’s.

]]> By: Jane http://www.cringely.com/belt-suspenders-cloud-storage-122387#comment-254457 Jane Fri, 10 Aug 2012 05:37:33 +0000 http://www.cringely.com/?p=4668#comment-254457 I backup to a local hard drive. My only concerns are fire and someone breaking in and stealing my computer equipment. What happens if there is a fire? I lose both my backup and my main hard drives since they both sit in the same physical area. The "cloud" is useful for backup if you want something secured from a fire, earthquake, or other (un)natural disaster. An offsite web hosting provider with oodles of hard drive space is an equally valid avenue to take too. Assuming the offsite backup is correct, what's the probability that you'll lose both the offsite data, a local backup, and your hard drive(s) all in the same day?

]]> I backup to a local hard drive. My only concerns are fire and someone breaking in and stealing my computer equipment. What happens if there is a fire? I lose both my backup and my main hard drives since they both sit in the same physical area. The “cloud” is useful for backup if you want something secured from a fire, earthquake, or other (un)natural disaster. An offsite web hosting provider with oodles of hard drive space is an equally valid avenue to take too. Assuming the offsite backup is correct, what’s the probability that you’ll lose both the offsite data, a local backup, and your hard drive(s) all in the same day?

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