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		<title>By: Jarrod Ike</title>
		<link>http://www.cringely.com/2012/09/06/hong-kong/#comment-55346</link>
		<dc:creator>Jarrod Ike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 05:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Here Are The Steps On How To Go Public With Strategy, Free Video</title>
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		<dc:creator>Here Are The Steps On How To Go Public With Strategy, Free Video</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 23:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Outsourcing the IPO Market to Hong Kong &#124; AccidentalCapitalist</title>
		<link>http://www.cringely.com/2012/09/06/hong-kong/#comment-55344</link>
		<dc:creator>Outsourcing the IPO Market to Hong Kong &#124; AccidentalCapitalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 22:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!-- insert ads is firing -->[...] companies.  If they make it big, they may come back for a second round in this country.  Read An IPO minor league in Hong Kong for startups for the details and some additional facts on the JOBS Act. Companies cannot raise more than one [...]  <iframe src="http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=icr0c-20&o=1&p=8&l=as1&asins=B008NA3HZY&ref=tf_til&fc1=000000&IS2=1<1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&npa=1&f=ifr" style="width:120px;height:240px;" scrolling="no" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" frameborder="0"></iframe>
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		<title>By: KevinKunreuther</title>
		<link>http://www.cringely.com/2012/09/06/hong-kong/#comment-55343</link>
		<dc:creator>KevinKunreuther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 10:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!-- insert ads is firing -->Marc Cuban believes he has the answer to solving America&#039;s economic problems :entrepreneurs.
http://blogmaverick.com/2012/09/17/the-cure-to-our-economic-problems-2/?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=twitter&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+blogmaverick%2FtyiP+%28blog+maverick%29
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc Cuban believes he has the answer to solving America&#8217;s economic problems :entrepreneurs.<br />
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the problem with that &#8211; not enough are being encouraged or can get funding</p>
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		<title>By: Ronc</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 22:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bazz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 06:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!-- insert ads is firing -->This is better. But some inventions and companies that failed.
Monsoon produced electrostatic PC speakers which won prizes I held off for a year and in that time they went bankrupt. Bankers and others made them fail. I still don&#039;t have them boo hoo hoo.
Fairlight a great Oz company invented the stereo separation sound system that Dolby uses for PC computers. The dumb Ozzies share owners sold down the company to cents and Dolby bought the company for less than the royalties it had to pay Fairlight. Ha ha ha ha!

Both sucked into the blackness of big corporations blackholes.
So success is difficult. Which means people need money to invest that they feel they can lose.

And going Far East means failure at home and USA reduced to third world status.
Who has the money controls the roost. Just ask the World Bank and Thailand or Greece!

And finally there&#039;s no BIG IDEA on the horizon to make the tills ring like railways, electricity, cars, radios TVs, VCRs, PCs or digital stuff of the past. Apples&#039;s 15 years of stellar growth has ended now its steady as she goes, unless it goes into biology! Motivated Visionaries are hard to find.

Oh and the best car &#039;the Goddess&#039;  -- AND STILL NOT SURPASSED 50 yrs LATER -- and its manufacturer (run by engineers) went bankrupt because idiots did not like it. So success is difficult. <iframe src="http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=icr0c-20&o=1&p=8&l=as1&asins=B008NA3HZY&ref=tf_til&fc1=000000&IS2=1<1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&npa=1&f=ifr" style="width:120px;height:240px;" scrolling="no" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" frameborder="0"></iframe>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is better. But some inventions and companies that failed.<br />
Monsoon produced electrostatic PC speakers which won prizes I held off for a year and in that time they went bankrupt. Bankers and others made them fail. I still don&#8217;t have them boo hoo hoo.<br />
Fairlight a great Oz company invented the stereo separation sound system that Dolby uses for PC computers. The dumb Ozzies share owners sold down the company to cents and Dolby bought the company for less than the royalties it had to pay Fairlight. Ha ha ha ha!</p>
<p>Both sucked into the blackness of big corporations blackholes.<br />
So success is difficult. Which means people need money to invest that they feel they can lose.</p>
<p>And going Far East means failure at home and USA reduced to third world status.<br />
Who has the money controls the roost. Just ask the World Bank and Thailand or Greece!</p>
<p>And finally there&#8217;s no BIG IDEA on the horizon to make the tills ring like railways, electricity, cars, radios TVs, VCRs, PCs or digital stuff of the past. Apples&#8217;s 15 years of stellar growth has ended now its steady as she goes, unless it goes into biology! Motivated Visionaries are hard to find.</p>
<p>Oh and the best car &#8216;the Goddess&#8217;  &#8212; AND STILL NOT SURPASSED 50 yrs LATER &#8212; and its manufacturer (run by engineers) went bankrupt because idiots did not like it. So success is difficult.</p>
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		<title>By: NoTalentHack</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoTalentHack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 23:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!-- insert ads is firing -->A couple of random thoughts.

I don&#039;t think the JOBS Act approach is going to provide enough capital. If a small investor can invest no more than $2000 in a crowd-funded investment, what&#039;s the payoff for him? Let&#039;s say he&#039;s willing to throw down $20,000 on 10 companies that look promising. Maybe he gets extremely lucky and and one of those 10 turns out to be the next Apple (or, Salix Pharmaceuticals to randomly take a successful small cap ). In that case, maybe over many years he sees a 25-fold increase in his investment, which would be nice, but $50K is not going to change his lifestyle appreciably . And, what are the odds of spotting that budding company from all the others ?  Since most small businesses fail, even if our small guy is a good stock picker, six or seven of the companies he invests in are going to go out of business, losing most if not all of his investment. The three or four that do well are going to take a long time do it. It seems like pretty long odds. Better to bet on an indexed mutual fund and hope that the stock market meets its historical average of 8 or 9% growth a year, which will double your money in a decade or so.

Second thought: being able to borrow, as in Hong Kong, on that intrinsic $30 million of value that a company is perceived to have just because they&#039;re listed on the exchange - well that seems like a recipe for disaster on the order of America&#039;s credit swap debacle. Or maybe more like Enron. <iframe src="http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=icr0c-20&o=1&p=8&l=as1&asins=B008NA3HZY&ref=tf_til&fc1=000000&IS2=1<1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&npa=1&f=ifr" style="width:120px;height:240px;" scrolling="no" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" frameborder="0"></iframe>
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<p>I don&#8217;t think the JOBS Act approach is going to provide enough capital. If a small investor can invest no more than $2000 in a crowd-funded investment, what&#8217;s the payoff for him? Let&#8217;s say he&#8217;s willing to throw down $20,000 on 10 companies that look promising. Maybe he gets extremely lucky and and one of those 10 turns out to be the next Apple (or, Salix Pharmaceuticals to randomly take a successful small cap ). In that case, maybe over many years he sees a 25-fold increase in his investment, which would be nice, but $50K is not going to change his lifestyle appreciably . And, what are the odds of spotting that budding company from all the others ?  Since most small businesses fail, even if our small guy is a good stock picker, six or seven of the companies he invests in are going to go out of business, losing most if not all of his investment. The three or four that do well are going to take a long time do it. It seems like pretty long odds. Better to bet on an indexed mutual fund and hope that the stock market meets its historical average of 8 or 9% growth a year, which will double your money in a decade or so.</p>
<p>Second thought: being able to borrow, as in Hong Kong, on that intrinsic $30 million of value that a company is perceived to have just because they&#8217;re listed on the exchange &#8211; well that seems like a recipe for disaster on the order of America&#8217;s credit swap debacle. Or maybe more like Enron.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 05:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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In short, a concept called technical analysis is my key to trading. It is using mathematical functions to create charts that give you insight into the psychology of the market. You don&#039;t need to know the math, software already do that for you.

Suggestions:

- Toni Turners books are a good start. Easy to understand BUT they are not really enough to trade without hurting yourself.
- Keep reading, lots of good books on Amazon on trading and technical analysis. Good resources online.
- My trading platform is ThinkOrSwim. It is free, awesome, incredibly powerful. The other resources, videos... from TDAmeritrade are also very good.
- Ignore the almost all news sources as far as understanding the stock market. The IGNORANT talking to the ignorant. <iframe src="http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=icr0c-20&o=1&p=8&l=as1&asins=B008NA3HZY&ref=tf_til&fc1=000000&IS2=1<1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&npa=1&f=ifr" style="width:120px;height:240px;" scrolling="no" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" frameborder="0"></iframe>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a short question with a very long answer. Whole books and whole careers have been spent on it and everyone will give you a different answer.</p>
<p>In short, a concept called technical analysis is my key to trading. It is using mathematical functions to create charts that give you insight into the psychology of the market. You don&#8217;t need to know the math, software already do that for you.</p>
<p>Suggestions:</p>
<p>- Toni Turners books are a good start. Easy to understand BUT they are not really enough to trade without hurting yourself.<br />
- Keep reading, lots of good books on Amazon on trading and technical analysis. Good resources online.<br />
- My trading platform is ThinkOrSwim. It is free, awesome, incredibly powerful. The other resources, videos&#8230; from TDAmeritrade are also very good.<br />
- Ignore the almost all news sources as far as understanding the stock market. The IGNORANT talking to the ignorant.</p>
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		<title>By: Links of the day &#124; 在网上找到 &#124; renaissance chambara &#124; Ged Carroll</title>
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		<dc:creator>Links of the day &#124; 在网上找到 &#124; renaissance chambara &#124; Ged Carroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 22:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ronc</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 21:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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