
Not Gidget, stupid, WeJIT!
This is the third in a series of columns about interesting new technologies.
Every few years something comes along to fundamentally change how we use the World Wide Web, whether it is online video, social networking, dynamic pages, or even search, itself. This week a new technology called WeJIT was announced that looks like something small but is really something big because it extends collaboration from specialized sites like wikis to everywhere HTML is used. WeJITS are collaboration in a persistent link.
WeJITS come from Democrasoft, a company here in Santa Rosa that is best known for Collaborize Classroom, a cloud-based service used by more than 30,000 teachers to interact with students, deliver lessons from a global peer reviewed library, and even give tests. WeJITS take the best of Collaborize Classroom and place it in a single link.
In one sense WeJITS don’t seem like much, but when you see how easy it is to create these little standalone web pages and how they can be inserted in blogs, e-mail messages, even in e-books, creating conversations, polls, and requesting ideas in what is normally one-way communication, it’s pretty powerful. WeJITS turn e-mail into social networking without participants having to join anything. WeJITS turn tweets into discussions.
We have here at I, Cringely a robust and lively self-policing community of thinkers that only took me 25 years of continuous effort to build (that’s 25 years without a vacation, folks). WeJITS can take away a lot of that work, building and expanding audiences. They can coax participation out of people who are normally very quiet, too, like that friend who would never be caught dead on Facebook or LinkedIn.
I remember speaking at Pleasanton Junior High School on the day after 9/11 back in 2001 and teacher Fred Emerson (who still reads this column) telling me how game-changing he thought his new iPod could be. I didn’t see it. To me the iPod looked like just another MP3 player. But I was wrong because the iPod allowed users to carry all their music with them wherever they went and came with a built-in distribution ecosystem. That’s they way I think WeJITS can be, too. They aren’t much to look at but since they are quick and easy, inclusive and free I expect them to eventually have a big impact on the way we interact online.
Or maybe I’m wrong. You tell me. And use this WeJIT to do so.

Bob – I took a look and I like it! I’m somewhat skeptical about new technology that make some serious claims.
But I do think the simplicity and ease of use can allow this to become a huge thing for those looking to get things done quickly without tons of emails flying back and forth.
Good find and I will be creating some WeJIT’s to send out to my inner circle to make some decisions around changes to my website. Thank god I won’t have to wade through 15 emails to figure it out!
I’m wondering how this WeJit compares to efforts from Dave Winer (using PubSubHubBub and OPML) …
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Interesting. How do they make the money needed to run the service and make a nice profit?
It is kind of what http://doodle.com/qtuicgduxg66tqrr does.
Hm. Didn’t want to create a brand new one-off account for yet another potentially fly-by-night web service. Didn’t want to tie an app into the untrusted/untrustable Facebook ecosystem. And when I told it to try logging in via Google, it said it was going to access my entire contact list.
No. No thank you. Let me use arbitrary oauth URLs or something and I could try it, but no, I couldn’t go with any of the login options presented.
Well, it’s nice for creating quick surveys, but responders have to create an account.
Hardly earth-shattering. Very forgettable.
I clicked on your WeJIT link, and I couldn’t even vote without signing up for a WeJIT account… Strike one.
Next, it’s hosted on a 3rd party server by a business that I don’t know, and more importantly, don’t know how long they’ll be around. I feel the same for most/all “free” services. Fouled it off, strike two.
And contrary to your implication that they can be embedded in a web page, you’ve got a link off your site… Sorry, if they were embeddable without an iframe, or at least easy to embed, maybe, but as of right now, NO. Strike three.
Hope they can fix some of these issues, but I’m not hopeful.
Al well voiced all my negative conclusions, so I won’t re-iterate. I won’t establish an account to post to the service, so that’s a show stopper for me. Looks like any old forum to me along with being yet another method to datamine me to death. Not participating in it.
I have to agree with Al.
Interesting, but no – and it still forces you to sign up/login to something – WeJIT. (You’re own page does it too.)
The problem is how JavaScript centric it is – won’t work for much other than a standard web-page. E-mailing it won’t work well b/c anyone thinking about security in their e-mail will disable javascript for e-mail; an serious e-mail provider will mark javascript in the e-mail as hazardous and potentially a virus. And if you’re stuck on a webpage, then well, there’s better solutions that do and don’t require JavaScript. (Simple HTML forms could be used; though an AJAX solution certainly does make usability a lot better.)
Sorry, but I don’t see WeJIT’s going anywhere. It’s silo’d and proprietary and is too tightly coupled to anything to take off.
For an alternative, take a look at Ward Cunningham’s Federated Wiki: https://github.com/WardCunningham/Smallest-Federated-Wiki
Ward invented the Wiki, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ward_cunningham, so he knows what he’s talking about.
Federated services for collaboration are the future.
I sure hope you don’t change your column to use this style. Here is the order in which the posts appeared from top to bottom. I have no idea who is responding to whom. The order is more important than lines, arrows, icons, or words like “posted by” and “reply”. It may be better than email but not by much; and it’s a lot worse than your column, most “forums”, and “newsgroups”. One poster got it right when he said it was like Google Wave. (On top of that, my post didn’t even show up…at least not right away.)
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It still needs an account for every contributor, so for simple friend/family e-mails it’s off. At work we’d use Excel or Outlook for simple forms. For websites and blogs the CMS will probably have this stuff built-in already. Or use Disqus. For the quiet ones an account-less approach works better. Like this Cringely site.
Having a look at the Terms of Use was enough to discourage me from creating an account.
being too lazy to read it, can you summarize what struck you?
For me, the TOU discouragement was 5 pages of very small type. I didn’t read it. And no, I didn’t register either.
Bob- ipod announced in oct 2001.
i’m always interested in the different takes on how a wiki should be restricted. the day of the policy restricted wiki is probably over, i’ve failed too many times to make that work for different organizations. You need a king to make the kingdom have order, but then the proles get frustrated and give up. If people were better then stuff like semantic wiki could actually work both for querying and quality control, but people aren’t better so i truly believe that system restricted wiki’s are the key.
This is an interesting entry into this field. They’ve made a choice about the way people collaborate on things. I’m interested to understand how brainstorming is different than discussing. The voting is an interesting feature.
I compare this to any of the more modern issue tracking systems used for code development. These are very structured semantic wikis, and i see great conversations taking place in the tickets all the time even if they are a little to forum like for my personal tastes.
I also compare it to something like trello.com which is my current favorite system restricted wiki. this is clearly a bit more restricted so any 1 thing may get better info, but does it maintain the flexability to group things and organize like the mediawiki category or the trello board?
i too didn’t like that you didn’t embed your WeJIT.
discussions are brainstorms without voting => same damn thing
after playing with it to try to collaborate on a house hunt i found it to be wanting. Trello is way easier to work with. I could add and organize things so much faster in trello. Again this could be because of me, or the topic i was working with, and services grow over time. I hated the early version of wordpress.
i hope to see more candidates in this field. Web 2.0 was/is all about getting users to put content on the web and this is such a great way for it to happen.
WeJIT could be powerful, but having to register I leave a reply over here.
I like how easy you can create a discussion, having the possibility of anonymous posting will be a definitely plus.
Hmmmmmmm. Free, social, collaboration software where have we seen this before… I know Google Wave – That went well and revolutionised the Internet didn’t it?
It’s nice, but except for the prioritization WeJIT, I didn’t see anything that you can’t already do with WordPress and a few plugins (and for all I know there is a prioritization plugin for WP). Decide and Select are both polls, with one being limited to yes/no. Discuss and Brainstorm would seem the be the same thing, unless maybe Discuss doesn’t allow voting.
Of course, if you did this with WordPress, you’d have a lot of other stuff going on, and every post would have all the features available. They’ve stripped it down so each section just has the necessary fields. There’s certainly value in simplifying a user interface — see the iPod. But I wouldn’t call that fundamental change; I’d call it one more step along the path of improved online communications. (When it’s as easy to follow and contribute to discussions on the web as it was on Usenet 20 years ago, I’ll be happy.)
Yes. It’s hard to beat Newsgroups on a good client like Outlook Express or Vista’s Windows Mail. But Microsoft and others can make more money from web based forums so Microsoft has devolved the client and eliminated their numerous free news servers. Not sure how they do it, but the best substitute I’ve found so far is http://www.sevenforums.com . The only problem I’ve seen there is their policy of not allowing discussions of ad blocking. (I’ve been informed that if I mention hosts file blocking a third time, I’ll be banned.)
Bob, wouldn’t you rather hold all the comments on one of your posts on cringely.com? Wouldn’t you rather be able to archive all of them for historical purposes or even to make an ebook out of them someday?
What about historical uses, can you be sure WeJit will not go under and all the wejits you create be lost?
Dave Winer’s solutions look a lot more reliable, ownable, and customizable to me.
That “Fred Emerson” sounds like a true visionary. I think he should start writing. I really would like to know what he thinks.
He probably is a top notch teacher…if he is still teaching. I’m surprised he hasn’t been grabbed by some high-tech company.
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Democrasoft…wait, didn’t they used to be Burst.com? The company that sued Miscrosoft for patent infringement, settled for a small license fee, and then vanished when its patents were essentially circumvented by new technology?
I also recall Mr Cringely specifically predicting that Burst.com was going to win its lawsuits against either MS or Apple.
Just saying.
My favorite Gidget was Sally Field. I was devastated when she ran off with Burt Reynolds.
Back to a serious note — I’d like to learn more about Democrasoft. It sounds like they invested their Microsoft settlement money in something to help society. I’d like to see more.
I have to signup on that link you have there at the end and I’m done signing up to “vote”. so NO I don’t think WeJITs will make any significant impact.
Bob,
Any comments on the fact that the blog posts on this one tend to be negative, while the posts on the Wijit site are overwhelmingly positive ?
Finally, Bob at his best again. This was a super article, with real insight. Thanks Bob. er, Robert. Bobbie. etc.
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