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		<title>By: Al Wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.cringely.com/2012/07/26/the-darpa-way#comment-275911</link>
		<dc:creator>Al Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 14:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!-- insert ads is firing -->P.S. just to clarify: the &#039;A&#039; in DARPA stands for &quot;advanced.&quot;  Why didn&#039;t they say that?  It&#039;s in the name, dummy!  &quot;Not the DARPA way&quot; means &quot;don&#039;t try meeting the criteria with ancient tech and duct tape, even if that old shit actually does the job.&quot; <iframe src="http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=icr0c-20&o=1&p=8&l=as1&asins=B008NA3HZY&ref=tf_til&fc1=000000&IS2=1<1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&npa=1&f=ifr" style="width:120px;height:240px;" scrolling="no" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" frameborder="0"></iframe>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. just to clarify: the &#8216;A&#8217; in DARPA stands for &#8220;advanced.&#8221;  Why didn&#8217;t they say that?  It&#8217;s in the name, dummy!  &#8220;Not the DARPA way&#8221; means &#8220;don&#8217;t try meeting the criteria with ancient tech and duct tape, even if that old shit actually does the job.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Al Wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.cringely.com/2012/07/26/the-darpa-way#comment-275910</link>
		<dc:creator>Al Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 14:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!-- insert ads is firing -->Yup, solids on a MiG-25 would work pretty good, just like the PDP-8 in my basement works pretty good for maintaining a database of my coin collection. <iframe src="http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=icr0c-20&o=1&p=8&l=as1&asins=B008NA3HZY&ref=tf_til&fc1=000000&IS2=1<1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&npa=1&f=ifr" style="width:120px;height:240px;" scrolling="no" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" frameborder="0"></iframe>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, solids on a MiG-25 would work pretty good, just like the PDP-8 in my basement works pretty good for maintaining a database of my coin collection.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Hasler</title>
		<link>http://www.cringely.com/2012/07/26/the-darpa-way#comment-255964</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Hasler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2012 12:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!-- insert ads is firing -->Perhaps it was rejected because you didn&#039;t propose anything they couldn&#039;t do themselves, whereas the other proposals were pushing the envelope on what was possible. <iframe src="http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=icr0c-20&o=1&p=8&l=as1&asins=B008NA3HZY&ref=tf_til&fc1=000000&IS2=1<1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&npa=1&f=ifr" style="width:120px;height:240px;" scrolling="no" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" frameborder="0"></iframe>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps it was rejected because you didn&#8217;t propose anything they couldn&#8217;t do themselves, whereas the other proposals were pushing the envelope on what was possible.</p>
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		<title>By: DaveTX</title>
		<link>http://www.cringely.com/2012/07/26/the-darpa-way#comment-254158</link>
		<dc:creator>DaveTX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 07:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!-- insert ads is firing -->Bob, if you&#039;re going to revive a deceased aircraft, pick the F-111.  External centerline hardpoints, common engine with plenty of spares, incredible payload.  Lots of them in AZ. <iframe src="http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=icr0c-20&o=1&p=8&l=as1&asins=B008NA3HZY&ref=tf_til&fc1=000000&IS2=1<1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&npa=1&f=ifr" style="width:120px;height:240px;" scrolling="no" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" frameborder="0"></iframe>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob, if you&#8217;re going to revive a deceased aircraft, pick the F-111.  External centerline hardpoints, common engine with plenty of spares, incredible payload.  Lots of them in AZ.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich The Mongoose</title>
		<link>http://www.cringely.com/2012/07/26/the-darpa-way#comment-252474</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich The Mongoose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2012 01:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!-- insert ads is firing -->Ahhh...the glory days of the PDP-10&#039;s IPL&#039;ed with mylar tape because no one trusted the oily paper tape.....it was a world better than starting up an IBM 1800 with 80 column cards!

If I recall correctly, Bob and Curtis LeMay are both right. The colleges wanted to be free of the mainframes and reduce their costs by avoiding side suckers like the emerging IBM SNA and Honeywell&#039;s BNP. The military wanted a type of data network that could survive a nuclear war. So the colleges got their technology paid for by a military project justified through a new type of worldwide military communications control system using a nuclear war resistant set of protocols. 

So a few universities banded together and gave DARPA the proposal for the network infrastructure using TCP/IP for the future WWMCCS (Worldwide Military Communications and Control System) and they got their solutions to free themselves from IBM, CDC and Honeywell-GE mainframes. Then came the DEC-10xx and 20xx&#039;s and BBN and the fun started...... <iframe src="http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=icr0c-20&o=1&p=8&l=as1&asins=B008NA3HZY&ref=tf_til&fc1=000000&IS2=1<1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&npa=1&f=ifr" style="width:120px;height:240px;" scrolling="no" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" frameborder="0"></iframe>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhh&#8230;the glory days of the PDP-10&#8242;s IPL&#8217;ed with mylar tape because no one trusted the oily paper tape&#8230;..it was a world better than starting up an IBM 1800 with 80 column cards!</p>
<p>If I recall correctly, Bob and Curtis LeMay are both right. The colleges wanted to be free of the mainframes and reduce their costs by avoiding side suckers like the emerging IBM SNA and Honeywell&#8217;s BNP. The military wanted a type of data network that could survive a nuclear war. So the colleges got their technology paid for by a military project justified through a new type of worldwide military communications control system using a nuclear war resistant set of protocols. </p>
<p>So a few universities banded together and gave DARPA the proposal for the network infrastructure using TCP/IP for the future WWMCCS (Worldwide Military Communications and Control System) and they got their solutions to free themselves from IBM, CDC and Honeywell-GE mainframes. Then came the DEC-10xx and 20xx&#8217;s and BBN and the fun started&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bill H</title>
		<link>http://www.cringely.com/2012/07/26/the-darpa-way#comment-250973</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2012 04:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!-- insert ads is firing -->Is that related to crowdfunding, Part 3 The Right Way? <iframe src="http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=icr0c-20&o=1&p=8&l=as1&asins=B008NA3HZY&ref=tf_til&fc1=000000&IS2=1<1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&npa=1&f=ifr" style="width:120px;height:240px;" scrolling="no" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" frameborder="0"></iframe>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that related to crowdfunding, Part 3 The Right Way?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.cringely.com/2012/07/26/the-darpa-way#comment-250921</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2012 00:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!-- insert ads is firing -->With entire countries dropping the MiG-25 due to lack of spare parts, how are you able to obtain spares? And can any part of the critical supply chain be cut off by unfriendly countries? <iframe src="http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=icr0c-20&o=1&p=8&l=as1&asins=B008NA3HZY&ref=tf_til&fc1=000000&IS2=1<1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&npa=1&f=ifr" style="width:120px;height:240px;" scrolling="no" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" frameborder="0"></iframe>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With entire countries dropping the MiG-25 due to lack of spare parts, how are you able to obtain spares? And can any part of the critical supply chain be cut off by unfriendly countries?</p>
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		<title>By: swschrad</title>
		<link>http://www.cringely.com/2012/07/26/the-darpa-way#comment-250846</link>
		<dc:creator>swschrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 20:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!-- insert ads is firing -->your options would include turning the solid fuel machine up to a decay orbit, or down and sideways to kill some fish someplace where nobody will notice.  perhaps with a &quot;awshit&quot; transponder signal everybody can agree on.

there&#039;s always a long period between bad idea and explosion where a good exit can be engineered.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>your options would include turning the solid fuel machine up to a decay orbit, or down and sideways to kill some fish someplace where nobody will notice.  perhaps with a &#8220;awshit&#8221; transponder signal everybody can agree on.</p>
<p>there&#8217;s always a long period between bad idea and explosion where a good exit can be engineered.</p>
<p>you just have to understand going in that someday you will need one.</p>
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		<title>By: swschrad</title>
		<link>http://www.cringely.com/2012/07/26/the-darpa-way#comment-250844</link>
		<dc:creator>swschrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 19:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!-- insert ads is firing -->I vote Option B.  if you&#039;re in The Club, they buy your lunch.  if you&#039;re not in The Club, there is a vast and byzantine network of &quot;assistance&quot; offices that let you down easy, and then dump you. <iframe src="http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=icr0c-20&o=1&p=8&l=as1&asins=B008NA3HZY&ref=tf_til&fc1=000000&IS2=1<1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&npa=1&f=ifr" style="width:120px;height:240px;" scrolling="no" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" frameborder="0"></iframe>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I vote Option B.  if you&#8217;re in The Club, they buy your lunch.  if you&#8217;re not in The Club, there is a vast and byzantine network of &#8220;assistance&#8221; offices that let you down easy, and then dump you.</p>
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		<title>By: swschrad</title>
		<link>http://www.cringely.com/2012/07/26/the-darpa-way#comment-250841</link>
		<dc:creator>swschrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 19:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!-- insert ads is firing -->the whole &quot;anywhere from T-24&quot; launch concept sort of suggests the distributed resource model... you know, as in &quot;you can&#039;t hit all our sites in 10 minutes.&quot;  I&#039;m surprised they didn&#039;t have a submarine component of the bid. <iframe src="http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=icr0c-20&o=1&p=8&l=as1&asins=B008NA3HZY&ref=tf_til&fc1=000000&IS2=1<1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&npa=1&f=ifr" style="width:120px;height:240px;" scrolling="no" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" frameborder="0"></iframe>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the whole &#8220;anywhere from T-24&#8243; launch concept sort of suggests the distributed resource model&#8230; you know, as in &#8220;you can&#8217;t hit all our sites in 10 minutes.&#8221;  I&#8217;m surprised they didn&#8217;t have a submarine component of the bid.</p>
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