Quick test run. Lay you wife out on the floor nude with one hand covering her vagina and the other laid out over her nipples, and then take the other with her fully clad in an apron with nothing on underneath and honestly ask yourself in which one does she look more naked and more intentionally posed for sexual suggestion.

I think an honest mistake, but that the crucial line between this being humorous and pornographic is thin and by breaking the pattern of using foreign inanimate objects to cover the genitalia crosses the line, especially when juxtaposed with everyone else in the photo who has NOT crossed the line.

Do you see my point?

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Lucas

A note regarding bribing: have you ever tried to take a quality photograph of three mischievous boys fully dressed? If you wanted them to pose quietly, you’d have to bribe them, clothes or not. So what’s the difference? They were not “bribed” to strip. They were “bribed” to pose. Costume is irrelevant.

To Ethan’s question “Why would you ever photography your kids naked.” – Let me ask you this, why parents photograph their kids at all? My understanding is that parents take pictures of their kids because they love them and want to save happy memories to cherish them for years to come. What difference does it make how the kids are dressed? Do you love your child better if he or she wears more clothes? Do you love your child when he’s fully clothed, tolerate him with his shirt off, and hate him when he’s naked? If you do, then you would really not understand why parents may photograph their kids naked as well as clothed.

Jenna said, “this it is child porn in my opinion”. Thankfully the US Supreme Court has a different opinion about what child porn is, so I’ll stick to that opinion rather than Jenna’s.

Maria said, “sure, his ‘junk’ is concealed, but he is still obviously naked.” That’s straight from Freud: Maria must suffer from severe phobia of male body parts if she uses words like “junk” to describe them. That’s typical of childhood rape victims, or victims of a certain kind of upbringing. The children shown in the picture will NOT have the same deep psychological problems that Maria demonstrates here. They are taught to love their bodies, not hate them or be ashamed of them.

Maria, you may not believe it but if I were to look at your picture it would be obvious to me that you were naked under the clothes that conceal your body. Isn’t everyone naked under their clothes? What difference does it make what exactly conceals the body parts you hate so much, pants or kitchen utensils? If you can’t see it, you can’t see it. Don’t let your imagination run wild, or else you might realize that people are naked – though they conceal their bodies to various degrees – everywhere you go.

South Carolina community standards allowed my nudist club to have a booth when Mayfest was held each year through which over 150,000 people visited.

One year, Kinkos did enlarge the front page of a naturist/nudist park guide that had the backs of people on it for us to paste on a carton for our Halloween costumes.

There are a number of studies, some by Marilyn Story – a well-known sociologist- done that agree that children growing up in a nudist environment have fewer body image issues as well as a lower teen pregnancy rate. The divorce rate among nudist families is lower in comparison with the general population.

arilyn Story, in the Journal of Psychology, Vol. 118, first Half,
Sept. 1984 “Comparisons of Body Self-Concept between Social Nudists & Nonnudists”

Marilyn Story, in Jour. of Social Psychology, 1979, 108, 49-56 “Factors
Associated w/More Positive Body Self-Concepts in Preschool children”

Robin Lewis & Louis Janda, in The Relationship Between Adult Sexual
Adjustment & Childhood Experiences Regarding Exposure to Nudity,
Sleeping in the Parental Bed, &Parental Attitudes Toward Sexuality, Arch. of Sexual Behavior, Vol. 17, No.4, 1988

Marilyn Story in “A Comparison of Social Nudists & Non-nudists on
Experience w/Various Sexual Outlets” Journ. of Sex Research, Vol. 23, No. 2, pp
197-211, May 1987

Mary S. Calderone, M.D., in “The Family Book About Sexuality,” states:
” … with very young children accustomed from the beginning to nudity in
themselves and their parents, a great deal is taken for granted, and it
doesn’t seem to be much of an issue to them. What nudity does is make it
easy for children to become absolutely certain about just how men and
women are made. This knowledge is of great importance in assuring the child of his or her own correct gender. The differences in body states and sizes – and in body organs – can then be taken for granted and will provide an accurate image of how they themselves, or the opposite sex, will look when grown up. Children whose parents feel at ease in such natural events as stepping out of the shower, toweling, and walking back to their room to dress are fortunate.”

A suggested book is GROWING UP WITHOUT SHAME by Dennis Craig Smith,
ISBN 1-55599-001-0

When I look at their photos I see adorable innocence. When you look at it, all you can see is sex. If I can look at naked children and see innocence, and you can’t look at naked children without seeing sex, tell me, seriously, who’s the pervert here?