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		<title>By: one tree hill</title>
		<link>http://www.cringely.com/2009/10/no-joy-in-mudville/comment-page-1/#comment-13922</link>
		<dc:creator>one tree hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 04:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always visit your blog and retrieve everything you post here but I never commented but today when I saw this post, I couldn’t stop myself from commenting here. Wonderful mate!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always visit your blog and retrieve everything you post here but I never commented but today when I saw this post, I couldn’t stop myself from commenting here. Wonderful mate!</p>
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		<title>By: Hobert Connin</title>
		<link>http://www.cringely.com/2009/10/no-joy-in-mudville/comment-page-1/#comment-12774</link>
		<dc:creator>Hobert Connin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 06:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you agree COlts are going to lose become a fan of FB page &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.facebook.com/pages/Colts-Will-Lose-2010-Super-Bowl/297481424318?ref=nf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Colts Will Lose Super Bowl 2010!&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you agree COlts are going to lose become a fan of FB page <a href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/Colts-Will-Lose-2010-Super-Bowl/297481424318?ref=nf" rel="nofollow">Colts Will Lose Super Bowl 2010!</a></p>
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		<title>By: Raj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 04:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So this IBM wanker outsourced his cheating to Raj and got caught.
Haw haw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So this IBM wanker outsourced his cheating to Raj and got caught.<br />
Haw haw.</p>
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		<title>By: Davey Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davey Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I joined IBM US in 1978, IBM directly and indirectly told me I would never get rich on the salary they paid, but I would have job security as long as I didn&#039;t do something very stupid, fully paid health care during my working and retirement days, a traditional pension that combined with Social Security would cover most of my retirement needs, paid vacation and holiday time, and access to other benefits and perks. I worked my rear off for IBM, putting aside family obligations, working crazy hours, putting up with alot of crap because I knew in the end it would be worth the trouble. Then in the late 1980&#039;s IBM started to pull the carpet out from underneath our feet, health insurance became more and more the employees expense. Vacation time was cut. Creative scheduling by management reduced overtime pay. Pensions were frozen. Recently IBM payments into 401K&#039;s were reduced. Training went from multi-week go away schools to best effort attempts by peers over the telephone combined with blurry internet video feeds. Healthcare in retirement was changed to a pot of unsecured money that might cover a year or two of health insurance provided directly thru IBM. IBM decided that  those who worked from an office in their home (another IBM cost cutting move, less office building expense) would no longer be reimbursed for required internet connectivity. And those same home workers are discouraged from using BOND to order paper, ink and other everyday items at IBM expense. We trusted IBM to do the right thing. Instead we got the shaft. That is why so many USA IBM workers are pissed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I joined IBM US in 1978, IBM directly and indirectly told me I would never get rich on the salary they paid, but I would have job security as long as I didn&#8217;t do something very stupid, fully paid health care during my working and retirement days, a traditional pension that combined with Social Security would cover most of my retirement needs, paid vacation and holiday time, and access to other benefits and perks. I worked my rear off for IBM, putting aside family obligations, working crazy hours, putting up with alot of crap because I knew in the end it would be worth the trouble. Then in the late 1980&#8217;s IBM started to pull the carpet out from underneath our feet, health insurance became more and more the employees expense. Vacation time was cut. Creative scheduling by management reduced overtime pay. Pensions were frozen. Recently IBM payments into 401K&#8217;s were reduced. Training went from multi-week go away schools to best effort attempts by peers over the telephone combined with blurry internet video feeds. Healthcare in retirement was changed to a pot of unsecured money that might cover a year or two of health insurance provided directly thru IBM. IBM decided that  those who worked from an office in their home (another IBM cost cutting move, less office building expense) would no longer be reimbursed for required internet connectivity. And those same home workers are discouraged from using BOND to order paper, ink and other everyday items at IBM expense. We trusted IBM to do the right thing. Instead we got the shaft. That is why so many USA IBM workers are pissed.</p>
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		<title>By: turtleshadow</title>
		<link>http://www.cringely.com/2009/10/no-joy-in-mudville/comment-page-1/#comment-7986</link>
		<dc:creator>turtleshadow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 16:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting note on the silence of IBM again pops up.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/30/moffat_leaves_ibm/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; IBM doesn&#039;t speak about ex-employees&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt; This morning [Oct 30], in an internal announcement to IBM&#039;s employees, the company released the following statement: &quot;Rod Adkins, who was named acting head of IBM&#039;s Systems and Technology Group on October 19, has been appointed senior vice president of STG. Bob Moffat, who had been placed on leave of absence as a result of a US Federal investigation into his personal activities, is no longer an employee of IBM.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This year - I think - IBM outsource its employment and salary verification to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theworknumber.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Theworknumber&lt;/a&gt;.  The account number is  13274   IBM Corporation. I hope IBM execs get a taste of how horrible this service is and how ethically distasteful it is. It really is wrong for a company to do this to all the voluntary separations (quit before fired) and  resourced actioned ex-employees needing a job in a tough job market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting note on the silence of IBM again pops up.<br />
<a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/30/moffat_leaves_ibm/" rel="nofollow"> IBM doesn&#8217;t speak about ex-employees</a></p>
<blockquote><p> This morning [Oct 30], in an internal announcement to IBM&#8217;s employees, the company released the following statement: &#8220;Rod Adkins, who was named acting head of IBM&#8217;s Systems and Technology Group on October 19, has been appointed senior vice president of STG. Bob Moffat, who had been placed on leave of absence as a result of a US Federal investigation into his personal activities, is no longer an employee of IBM.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>This year &#8211; I think &#8211; IBM outsource its employment and salary verification to <a href="http://www.theworknumber.com/" rel="nofollow">Theworknumber</a>.  The account number is  13274   IBM Corporation. I hope IBM execs get a taste of how horrible this service is and how ethically distasteful it is. It really is wrong for a company to do this to all the voluntary separations (quit before fired) and  resourced actioned ex-employees needing a job in a tough job market.</p>
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		<title>By: LEAN and Mean Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.cringely.com/2009/10/no-joy-in-mudville/comment-page-1/#comment-7973</link>
		<dc:creator>LEAN and Mean Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 01:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moffat is gone:
http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091030/BIZ/910309980</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moffat is gone:<br />
<a href="http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091030/BIZ/910309980" rel="nofollow">http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091030/BIZ/910309980</a></p>
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		<title>By: SammyLou</title>
		<link>http://www.cringely.com/2009/10/no-joy-in-mudville/comment-page-1/#comment-7921</link>
		<dc:creator>SammyLou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 02:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you don&#039;t understand, ask a magician, they could explain the process ibm uses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you don&#8217;t understand, ask a magician, they could explain the process ibm uses.</p>
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		<title>By: Koptwan Indernaz</title>
		<link>http://www.cringely.com/2009/10/no-joy-in-mudville/comment-page-1/#comment-7880</link>
		<dc:creator>Koptwan Indernaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 07:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Revenue is lower (and profits are higher) because they sold off the PC business. Duh. That was a big revenue, low profit, commodity business. The price they got from Lenovo wasn&#039;t great, but there is no way that that PC&#039;s fit with the rest of the IBM business.

IBM HAS has grown revenues for the stuff that remains in it&#039;s portfolio. That&#039;s the point. Services, sw and hw have grown to easily fill the gap left by PC&#039;s, at a much higher profit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Revenue is lower (and profits are higher) because they sold off the PC business. Duh. That was a big revenue, low profit, commodity business. The price they got from Lenovo wasn&#8217;t great, but there is no way that that PC&#8217;s fit with the rest of the IBM business.</p>
<p>IBM HAS has grown revenues for the stuff that remains in it&#8217;s portfolio. That&#8217;s the point. Services, sw and hw have grown to easily fill the gap left by PC&#8217;s, at a much higher profit.</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2009-10-28 &#171; Amy G. Dala</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2009-10-28 &#171; Amy G. Dala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I, Cringely » Blog Archive » No Joy in Mudville &#8211; Cringely on technology on Moffat (tags: ibm finance) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.cringely.com/2009/10/no-joy-in-mudville/comment-page-1/#comment-7795</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Give me a break! IBM is a great company! It has more Cisco-certified engineers than any company but Cisco! By Cringely&#039;s measuring stick that must make it a success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give me a break! IBM is a great company! It has more Cisco-certified engineers than any company but Cisco! By Cringely&#8217;s measuring stick that must make it a success.</p>
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